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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Tgunz_64 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:02 pm

There is not one thing about the versa max that excites me. It's heavy, the fore end feels like holding a 2x4, and why doesn't the fore end click in somehow on the receiver side? Feels like it's free floating and cheap. I guess I'd buy a beretta or sx3 over the versa max.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby CaptainWv » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:52 am

TomKat wrote:I still love my Benelli M2.

I still dont know why anyone would want to own a 3.5" gun


I like 3.5 for Turkey, and some guys shoot them for waterfowl, I don't very much, but if I need to borrow a shell from someone ( or many) and he hands me a 3.5 I want to be able to shoot it.

On to the Versa Max, I dont own one, wont own one. But its a fit feel thing for me, nothing to do with function of the weapon
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Okie Ducker » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:14 pm

I don't know what Remington was thinking when they thought they could improve on the wingmaster 870 design. Not a better, fool proof, butter-smooth action design in my opinion. The express and versamax are definitely steps in the wrong direction as far as pump designs and workmanship goes.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Honk-n-quack » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:52 pm

Tgunz_64 wrote:There is not one thing about the versa max that excites me. It's heavy, the fore end feels like holding a 2x4, and why doesn't the fore end click in somehow on the receiver side? Feels like it's free floating and cheap. I guess I'd buy a beretta or sx3 over the versa max.

Same here. I held it and if felt very unbalanced to me.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby cannon » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:20 pm

Okie Ducker wrote:I don't know what Remington was thinking when they thought they could improve on the wingmaster 870 design. Not a better, fool proof, butter-smooth action design in my opinion. The express and versamax are definitely steps in the wrong direction as far as pump designs and workmanship goes.


I agree completely that the versamax is definitely a step in the wrong direction as far as PUMP DESIGNS go.

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Tgunz_64 wrote:There is not one thing about the versa max that excites me. It's heavy, the fore end feels like holding a 2x4, and why doesn't the fore end click in somehow on the receiver side? Feels like it's free floating and cheap. I guess I'd buy a beretta or sx3 over the versa max.

Same here. I held it and if felt very unbalanced to me.


I'll admit that the ergonomics of the fore end jumped out as a feature that I hated when I picked the gun up the first time. On the other hand, the first four shots that went through the gun, without a cleaning (straight out of the box), brought down four mid-range ducks. Never noticed the ergonomics of the fore arm since. Fit is a legitimate matter of preference. Some people like it, others don't. Function, on the other hand, is a universal matter.

I have benellis, berettas, Brownings, Remington's, winchesters, ithacas, and stoegers. I can honestly say that I am convinced that none of the guns in my closet are any better waterfowl guns. Reliable function, along with pattern performance and manageable recoil are at the top of my list when it comes to a worthy scatter gun. Thus far, the versamax that my 13 year-old daughter is now running has performed flawlessly, and enough so that I would put it above my Brownings and benellis in the realm of reliability. Add to that the fact that I can only relate the recoil to an old Remington 1100, and the fact that it has been a very versatile patterning gun. Absolutely meets my criteria as an excellent fowling gun.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby liquidmetal983 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:25 pm

I have the versamax competition the only problem I have is slug accuracy. 50 yards is the max I use slugs since it is the distance i can keep 1in groups with most shotguns, best group I can do is 6in at 50y bench rest supported shooting, sandbag, trigger job - whole 9 yards perfect conditions. Pisses me off big time I dont understand it tight choke tight mag cap screw . my rem 870 pump 1in group at 50y. otherwise cant complain bought mine jan 2015.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby kcwellington » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:01 am

Okie Ducker wrote:I don't know what Remington was thinking when they thought they could improve on the wingmaster 870 design. Not a better, fool proof, butter-smooth action design in my opinion. The express and versamax are definitely steps in the wrong direction as far as pump designs and workmanship goes.

:huh: Yea the PUMP model of the Versamax is not very good. :lol3: On a serious note, I held just about every shotgun out there when I was in the market and the Vmax just felt sloppy and loose to me. Some people love'em and that's fine but it felt like I was holding a 4x4 that was about to fall apart. jmo..of course! I ended up walking out with a 3" A5 and so far so good.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Yuchi1 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:57 am

cannon wrote:
Okie Ducker wrote:I don't know what Remington was thinking when they thought they could improve on the wingmaster 870 design. Not a better, fool proof, butter-smooth action design in my opinion. The express and versamax are definitely steps in the wrong direction as far as pump designs and workmanship goes.


I agree completely that the versamax is definitely a step in the wrong direction as far as PUMP DESIGNS go.

Honk-n-quack wrote:
Tgunz_64 wrote:There is not one thing about the versa max that excites me. It's heavy, the fore end feels like holding a 2x4, and why doesn't the fore end click in somehow on the receiver side? Feels like it's free floating and cheap. I guess I'd buy a beretta or sx3 over the versa max.

Same here. I held it and if felt very unbalanced to me.


I'll admit that the ergonomics of the fore end jumped out as a feature that I hated when I picked the gun up the first time. On the other hand, the first four shots that went through the gun, without a cleaning (straight out of the box), brought down four mid-range ducks. Never noticed the ergonomics of the fore arm since. Fit is a legitimate matter of preference. Some people like it, others don't. Function, on the other hand, is a universal matter.

I have benellis, berettas, Brownings, Remington's, winchesters, ithacas, and stoegers. I can honestly say that I am convinced that none of the guns in my closet are any better waterfowl guns. Reliable function, along with pattern performance and manageable recoil are at the top of my list when it comes to a worthy scatter gun. Thus far, the versamax that my 13 year-old daughter is now running has performed flawlessly, and enough so that I would put it above my Brownings and benellis in the realm of reliability. Add to that the fact that I can only relate the recoil to an old Remington 1100, and the fact that it has been a very versatile patterning gun. Absolutely meets my criteria as an excellent fowling gun.


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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Hat Flats » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:12 pm

The Versa has several good things going for it that the other company's don't, first Remington does not hose you on parts, just price a Browning Barrel or an Beretta A-400 barrel! the A-400 is $799.00! that's bull! one of the worst customer service company's going with the most expensive parts that are rarely in stock and Browning is pretty good but still expensive. Remington has excellent customer service (They need it!) but you can get parts fast and for a reasonable price and they will stand behind there guns, unlike Beretta.

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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby buckmeister » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:53 pm

I have just started my journey with the Versamax but today I put a few 3.5 inch shells through mine and it is better on felt recoil than my SBII was with 3.5 inch shells.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Meleagris1 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:51 pm

Our early duck season just ended and it was my first with a new Versamax waterfowl pro. I can't say enough about the gun, never missed a beat in the field, fits me like a glove and is without a doubt the softest recoiling 12ga I have ever shot, and I have shot them all, being active in clay sports. Its noticeably softer than my 11-87 which is quite impressive. Very, very happy with this purchase. :beer:
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby ohhiitznik01 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:36 pm

I just got a new versamax waterfowl pro. I love the gun. Coming from a supernova pump it's a big difference. The factory chokes are so so, I have a couple cremators on order from carlsons. I'll let you know how they pattern.

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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby lovethosesooners » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:32 am

Understand the fit being a personal thing but seems to me many of the negative responses are from those that haven't shot one-"assuming" the fit isn't the issue, really don't understand how anyone would have a bad opinion of any that have come out after the initial release where the few issues were corrected-for any heavy applications, IMO, nothing else comes close.
I liked mine enough to have bought a 2nd.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Pattygook » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:16 am

You lost your way when you added all the drama. Here's how you do it: My son bought a new Versa Max waterfowl model in Dec 2016. He cleaned and lubed it before he took it out to the blind. The first day out in the blind, it jammed on every shot. It would not go full battery (the bolt would not go all the way forward) unless he pushed the bolt handle forward. Even when we took the shells out and released the bolt, it jammed half-way forward. The next day, Remington sent the UPS man to pick it up from our house. I have no doubt gunsmiths at Remington will resolve the glitch. That's how you do it. If you want people to read all about your exploits conquering the world, go to another forum.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby NW Birdhunter » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:21 am

Bad luck, maybe he didn't put it back together right. Mine has been amazing, super reliable and a force to be reckoned with! Shot 2 snow geese and two drake canvasbacks with it on Christmas eve. Remington stands behind these guns. Take it to a certified Remington gunsmith, if it isn't right they will give you a brand new gun. Real happy with mine, one of my best auto loaders. :thumbsup:
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby d_valle_ » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:33 am

I got my VM Waterfowl Pro back in September after opening weekend for teal. Hunted with it the day after shooting light load 2 3/4" 6 shot. Shot flawlessly. It has shot flawlessly ever since. Hunted below zero days, and the gun has gone for a couple swims.

How cold was it when your son was hunting? It sounds very possible to me that it was over lubed and could have been freezing up.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby stevensinks » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:10 pm

I bought a versamax a year ago. It came with a bent barrel out of the box it shot 18 inches low left at 40 yards. I contacted rem 2 days after I bought it. After a lot of run around and 8 months they sent the gun back with a new barrel. I didn't even take it out of the box. I just traded it off. Wont be any more Rems come through my door.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Posted Land Nocturnal bandit » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:50 am

I have a versamax waterfowl pro. Love the gun works great in all conditions and with different loads and brands. I have shot numerous ducks and geese with it. Tore a gobblers head off at 45 yds this fall. I have only had gun since this summer. Looking to get another for back up. Also getting two V3 's for the boys. Maybe if some who do not like them quit buying them the price will come down, LOL. :thumbsup:
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby waterfowlhunter » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:28 am

Hat Flats wrote:Remington has excellent customer service (They need it!) but you can get parts fast and for a reasonable price and they will stand behind there guns, unlike Beretta.


Glad you had good luck with Remington. EVERY time I contact them I get the run-a-round never have the parts in stock but tell me they do. So I place the order then 6 weeks later when I call looking for my parts they tell me they are expecting them any time. The last order I placed with then for an "in stock" part was 4 bushmaster 450 magazines they told me "shipping today" when we placed the order. 3 months later and numerous phone calls they finally arrived but interestingly enough it was 4 days after I filed a BBB report on them in which they called me asking me to remove it and that they were sorry for the delay. My customer does not want to hear sorry they just wanted their magazines.

They also screwed me over on a 700 sendero that had the scope mount holes canted and misaligned and would not allow the mounts to seat properly (Remington told me they were within their generous spec and to have a gunsmith "fit" the mounts to the gun) and 2 11-87's the would actually blow a chunk out of the O-ring after about 20 rounds. after several returns they just sent me a box of O-rings and told me to "carry a spare in the field".

I like the versamax but as several others have stated it feels like holding a block of wood and as heavy as one too. I prefer the slim forend of an O/U and my Benelli's fit that profile very well and in a side by side comparison I could not tell the difference in recoil from my SBE to my Versamax in any way. Also the Versamax felt unrefined like it was built by the same factory that built the MP153's for Remington called an SPR453. These were reliable guns too but not too pleasing to the eye.

Now that the Winchester SX4 is out my plans for a V3 just switched to the Winchester which I believe is a much better brand and in my experience has much better customer service and QC.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby buckmeister » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:08 pm

I love my V3, handles great has not jammed on me once, and its made in America!!!
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby duckdave » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:12 pm

I just take the end cap off pull out that metal plug and spring and shake the shells out the end of the magazine tube to unload mine.
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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby hardcorehunter5 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:58 pm

I bought a used versamax waterfowl pro last year for $750. I couldnt pass up a deal like that even with it being used. I shot a lot of skeet with it and the forearm was loose. Remington sent the updated plug and forearm cap. No problems. I have used a sx3 for about 3 seasons now and that gun has been great but always left a little raspberry on my shoulder after a weekend long hunt. It had been reliable and then i experienced some light primer strikes. Totally my fault and a good cleaning seemed to fix that. I decided to use the versamax about 2 weeks ago. I was surprised at how much less recoil I felt never considered myself recoil sensitive but my arm felt great after multiple days shooting. FYI I only shoot 3" even having all 3.5" 12ga's. It rained like a cow pissing on a flat rock the last few days in the blind and not a single problem. The stock came loose as it did over the summer shooting skeet. Called remington today and they advised there was an update and sent out the parts. Ive shot both the sx3 and remington during skeet season and i have to say they have been uber reliable. But so far im reaching for the versamax in the duck blind. I am believer that nothing is perfect and how Im treated by CS goes a long way for future purchases. Plus I think of myself as knowing more then the average person in regards to firearms and always double check to make certain an error isnt operator induce. It brings a smile to my face that i got an American made shotgun that shoots well for a great price.


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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby mudpack » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:53 am

liquidmetal983 wrote:50 yards is the max I use slugs since it is the distance i can keep 1in groups with most shotguns, my rem 870 pump 1in group at 50y.

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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Cajun1 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:17 am

mudpack wrote:
liquidmetal983 wrote:50 yards is the max I use slugs since it is the distance i can keep 1in groups with most shotguns, my rem 870 pump 1in group at 50y.

The USA Olympics Committee is very interested in talking to you.


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Re: Versamax review... and why I sold it...

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:20 am

Have only run three shells thru a Versa Max. Can't speak to recoil on such a small sample, but I was impressed by how heavy it 'Seemed' to feel.
I have an A400 that isn't a great deal lighter than the Versa Max, but don't seem to notice the A400s weight as much?
I have a brand new (This season) SX3 Winchester that is less weighty than either the Beretta or Versa Max.
Have not had a chance to run many loads thru it either, but the general feel of the gun is definitely less bulky than the Versa Max or Beretta.
If you're hunting a blind, weight should matter very little with any of those guns, and if they 'Fit' well enough to give you hits on the birds consistently, then again, there is little to choose from.
Upland game, and sporting clays will give you a better insight for recoil and lugging about a 3.5 in waterfowl gun for long distance jump shooting waterfowl/upland bird hunts.

I have not yet shot a inertia gun that was not instantly a harder felt recoil than any of the gas guns similarly chambered.
I bought an SBEII some years ago and was rather shocked the first time I fired a dove load thru it. I expected far less/no recoil at all. Wasn't the case.
Will never own another since I sold the Benelli SBEII to buy the A400. The A400 was a real charmer from the very first shot!
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