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BigGoonTuna wrote:i've often thought that someone should make a 3" 16 gauge gun, and have it allow for higher pressures like the 3.5" 12 gauge is capable of.
JDWilliams wrote:I am 14 years old and shoot my BPS 10 and got to wondering why they don't increase the pressures of the 10 gauge. If they can get a 12 gauge up so high why can't they get the 10 up that high. It would be amazing to see the damage it would do to some geese and large ducks if it could stand a pressure as high as the 3 1/2 in. 12.
apexhunter wrote:To the original point, if a 10ga was loaded to the same pressures as a 3-1/2" 12ga the recoil would be so high that nobody would want to pull the trigger.
jrp267 wrote:The recoil would actually be less. The 10 is heavier therefore felt recoil is less. My gold ten is a dream to shoot. And I prefer it over my benelli nova. I would love to buy factory loads at 1600 fps but I shoot 1450 and seem to do fine.
lostknife4 wrote:jrp267 wrote:The recoil would actually be less. The 10 is heavier therefore felt recoil is less. My gold ten is a dream to shoot. And I prefer it over my benelli nova. I would love to buy factory loads at 1600 fps but I shoot 1450 and seem to do fine.
While I agree with your findings in part, due to the weight of your particular guns, that is only a portion of the reality of the situation. Recoil is a function of the weight of the powder, shotcup and shot and its Muzzle velocity compared to the weight of the gun and it's rearward velocity. John Taylor's "Shotshells and Ballistics" manual page 43 ff describe the effect of recoil using a 10 lb 10 ga and all other ga's he used an 8 lb gun. He further calculated some recoil energy using Lowry's ballistics program and published those results in Table 9.1 on page 43. Further information on recoil was gleaned from Hatcher's Notebook Chapter XII "The theory of Recoil" page 279 ff where considerable explanations of the theory of recoil is discussed, evaluated and discussions on the "Principles of Physics Involved in Recoil Calculation", the "Three Elements of Recoil", Internal ballistic recoil "Recoil Before the Bullet Leaves the Gun" and some discussion on the effects of the propellant gases after leaving the barrel and uses as an analogy Rocket Propulsion.
What this all boils down essentially is the heavier the shot , shotcup and powder charge the heavier the recoil, independent of gauge of the gun.Taylor notes that one traditional means used to reduce recoil is using a heavier gun. Interestingly too he notes that porting 's attenuation of the rearward displacement of the gun is minimal but it's ability to retard the vertical displacement of the barrel is immediately apparent!
KPY will confirm the above.