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3 or3.5

Postby DWG7 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:30 am

I shoot a Maxus have always just shot3" shells Is there a big preformance increase with the 3.5 and does the price and added recoil make it worth it Thanx
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby COYOTE JLR » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:47 am

I've not found a whole lot of benefit from the 3.5" shells that I've used. I'm not opposed to them, but I think if you're shooting right, a 3" will do about anything you need. It's not the recoil of the 3.5" that I found unpleasant, but the increased noise.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby JuniorPre 360 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:52 am

3.5's have got a lot of recoil. I shoot 3 inch #2's for ducks and geese. 3.5's I've only used for swan and geese until last year I dropped 2 geese with the 3's. You'll be fine shooting 3 inch for just about anything. I've always used 2 3/4 until I found out I could get 3's a little cheaper.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby Jon Bergren » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:00 am

I went thru the 3 1/2" syndrone and now shoot mostly 2 3/4" shells sometimes a 3 incher of BB's for 3 rd shot on geese but shoot mostly 2 3/4" 7/8 oz of B's' at 1750 fps for geese. This load will penetrate to kill to 66.5 yds but lose killing pattern density past 45 yds with a extended Mod choke. The shot goes clear thru the Lessers out to 45 yds. Also use 7/8 oz of 4's at 1750 fps and 1 oz of 3's at 1650 fps on ducks. Ned S
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby Rick Hall » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:12 am

Whether 3 1/2s are worthwhile is probably something you'll eventually have to determine for yourself. They weren't for me. If something ever happens to my old SBE, it will be replaced with a 3" gun, as that's the most I shoot anymore, even for tall snows. Don't mind the cost savings, but the bigger thing for me is how much quicker it is to get on the next bird with less recoil.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby mudpack » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:34 am

Nice to have options with a 3.5" gun.
Nothing says you HAVE to shoot 3.5" ammo in it.

I shoot about two cases of 2 3/4" and 3" shells through my Xtrema2 a season. I shoot about a box of 3.5" shells through it.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby aclumpkin » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:36 am

I grew up shooting all 3". I tried 3.5" briefly a year or two ago and honestly I didn't notice a difference. Perhaps it is because mostly we hunt in swamps and I either have fairly close passing shots or decoying ducks. Regardless, all I shoot now is 3".

I agree with Rick though, this is something you will eventually have to determine for yourself.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby papagoosehtr » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:44 am

I to have killed alot of geese with 3in didnt see any diff in 3 and 31/2 so I will stay with 3 in.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby aclumpkin » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:09 am

papagoosehtr wrote:I to have killed alot of geese with 3in didnt see any diff in 3 and 31/2 so I will stay with 3 in.

Oh, and I forgot to mention... on our hunts, we have mixes of ducks (wood ducks to mallards) to geese come in. I haven't had any issues with 3" #2's taking any of them out.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby Specklebelly » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:15 am

If you ever plan on selling the gun I would get the 3.5" as it is more marketable and easier to liquidate. If you use the extra length, you will have to determine if that is needed after trying it out.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby Wisconsincheese » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:42 pm

One thing I noticed with my SBE2 is that it is not the best choice for light loads. I have had several occasions were the bolt did not completely seat on the second round; these were light trap loads on a sporting clays course. I don't own a gas operated 3.5 gun.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby aclumpkin » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:42 pm

Wisconsincheese wrote:One thing I noticed with my SBE2 is that it is not the best choice for light loads. I have had several occasions were the bolt did not completely seat on the second round; these were light trap loads on a sporting clays course. I don't own a gas operated 3.5 gun.

My Beretta is gas operated but my answer to your issue was this: http://www.colegun.com/collections/clothes-and-accessories/products/390-g-beretta-390-gas-valve-spring-set-5-spring

Maybe they make one for the SBE2.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby t_baker » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:52 pm

I have a couple 3.5 guns. But I almost always shoot 3" #2's. Mixed birds as well, woodies, teal, mallards, geese.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby JuniorPre 360 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:22 pm

Now that I think about it, what matters to me is the pattern my shotgun is shooting. I have an adjustable poly choke and shoot everything with full to extra full. I found that with my cheap Xperts (cheap in price and cheaply made) work best in my 835 to kill a duck within a decent range. I take close shots due to the fact my shooting is going down.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby z51 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:04 pm

DWG7 wrote:I shoot a Maxus have always just shot3" shells Is there a big preformance increase with the 3.5 and does the price and added recoil make it worth it Thanx


I don't find price or recoil all that much different. My per case cost on Remington Sportsman is only $30 or only about 12 cents a shot over 3"'. In a eight pound gas gun it's no big deal. I shoot them on big geese and shy late season mallards.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby Baymen Moe » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:48 pm

The greatest benefit of a 3.5 in gun is if you need to borrow a shell or more from a blind mate. Any 12 ga he hands you will fit the gun. Imagine a big flight of ducks and you need to reload your 2.75 gun fast and your buddy hands you a 3 inch, or you're handed a 3.5 in and put it in your 3 inch gun. No question on fit.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby z51 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:31 am

DWG7 wrote:I shoot a Maxus have always just shot3" shells Is there a big preformance increase with the 3.5 and does the price and added recoil make it worth it Thanx


From a apple's to apple's ballistics standpoint there is a greater advantage over 3" steel than 3" steel has over 2 3/4" steel. So, if you like 3" steel you should love 3 1/2" steel. I have used it since 1999 when the situation dictates.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby aclumpkin » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:53 am

z51 wrote:
DWG7 wrote:I shoot a Maxus have always just shot3" shells Is there a big preformance increase with the 3.5 and does the price and added recoil make it worth it Thanx


From a apple's to apple's ballistics standpoint there is a greater advantage over 3" steel than 3" steel has over 2 3/4" steel. So, if you like 3" steel you should love 3 1/2" steel. I have used it since 1999 when the situation dictates.

Assuming your patterns with the 3.5" are as good as or better than your 3" I would agree. :thumbsup:
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby clampdaddy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:04 am

A few seasons back my main duck gun had a 3" chamber. It was a good season and I went through all of my shells sooner than I had expected. I went to Walmart to get a couple boxes to get me through the last two weeks of the season. They were totally sold out of 3" shells but they had a few boxes of 2 3/4" #4 and a few boxes of 3.5" #2 and BB. I bought the short shells but wished I could've used the longer ones. My next two guns had 3.5" chambers.

Since then I've shot a bunch of 3.5" shells but the only ones that I really noticed much difference in recoil was when I tried a single box of black clouds just to see what all the hype was about. I believe it was a 1 9/16 oz. loading. I didn't notice it so much on my shoulder but my Browning gave me Benelli knuckle with that load.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby youngoilguy » Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:45 am

papagoosehtr wrote:I to have killed alot of geese with 3in didnt see any diff in 3 and 31/2 so I will stay with 3 in.
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Plus, its really a lot harder to get back on target with the 3.5".
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby MNjonboatguy » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:32 pm

I was just gun shopping for my first semi, and this I gave this topic a lot of thought before my purchase...

I came to the conclusion that 3.5 inch shells can help you kill more geese, once in a while. Between the cost, kick, noise, and compatibility issues with sharing shells....I gave up on em. 3 inch shells are perfect for everything I do.
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Re: 3 or3.5

Postby jaysweet3 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:45 am

I quit buying them a year ago. I go to Canada every year, shot 3" for the last two trips, I killed just as many birds. But then again, every gun is different. Yours might pattern 3.5" shells better than 3". That would be the exception, but it's possible.
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