Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

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Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby DuckGooseDestroyer » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:06 pm

Hey guys,
You might have seen my last post of the "semi-auto shoguns"
I have it narrowed down between the Remington 11-87 sportsman superman and the Stoeger 3500
I need you guys to help me decide which gun to get
Thanks for reading and replying
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby elkhunt » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:34 pm

I have the stoeger and have not had any issues with it. For the money it was an easy choice. I have put about 500 shells through it with no malfunctions. Most have been trap loads. My uncle has the 11-87 and has had a lot more problems with it but he has had it longer. The stoeger fits me and felt good the first time I put it to my shoulder. I would say go to a store where you can handle both of them and see which one feels the best to you!

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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby Frank Lopez » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:55 pm

I have a friend that has a Stoeger, albeit the 2000, not the 3500. He's never had a issue with it, which is kind of remarkable since is isn't the most diligent person when it comes to cleaning his guns. And we hunt salt marshes! I believe that the Stoeger is the same design as the Benelli. However, it is not a Benelli. Stoeger is an importer, which means that they go to a manufacturer, spec out a gun and tell them the price they want to pay and how many they want. As with all price point guns, corners are cut. Typically, the guns are not finished as well as their counterparts that carry the manufacturer's name and warrantee. All guns, no matter the manufacturer, are prone to break downs. However, the frequency of break downs typically increases with price point guns. Doesn't mean that you'll have a problem, just that the odds are greater that you might have a problem.

The 11-87 has been around for a long time, with good reason.

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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby steelshotshooter » Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:19 pm

Like I had posted earlier, I think the Remington 11-87 is gonna be hard to beat...

I did a little preventative maintenance on the gun when I bought it new about five years ago, and I have yet to have a single issue with it...

I shoot a LOT of steel shot, not to mention regular lead shot loads, buckshot loads and slugs. The barrel on my gun is a 28" vent rib with removable choke tubes. The stock is black synthetic...

I have hated semi-automatic shotguns all my life and said I would never own one. Well, getting old and arthritis has changed my mind. As far as which shotgun, if you can handle both, shoulder and point them, get whichever one fits you best. That will make it far more enjoyable to shoot. I would also recommend doings a little "preventative maintenance" on the gun before you ever load and shoot it. That may help prevent a few headaches along the way....

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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby duckbuster57 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:42 pm

The 1187 is by far a softer shooting gun,get the one that fits you the best.
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby Cripple.creek » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:54 pm

To me the 3500 is what I would choose hands down. I shoot a 3500 and have had no problems with it so far. It shoots anything from 2.75 to 3.5 with ease. Another thing that is fun with the 3500 is loading 4 instead of three with a plug in the gun. I am in no way condoning this in a hunting situation but when messing around shooting clays it is great fun. Only complaint is the fiber optic sight rail is a little big for my taste. The 3000 is a wonderful gun if you don't mind not having the 3.5 capacity. It is also significantly lighter. My 3500 went for a swim last December on really cold day and still shot all day just fine.
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby z51 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:00 pm

If you plan on shooting many 3 1/2" loads get the 11-87. It's a gas gun, made in USA, nuff said.
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby BurninPowder » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:24 pm

z51 wrote:If you plan on shooting many 3 1/2" loads get the 11-87. It's a gas gun, made in USA, nuff said.

This! Something very few consider. Owned an 1187SM for years without issue, recently upgraded to a VM.
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby DuckManClyde » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:25 pm

i've heard that both have huge cycling problems. I guess if you have to choose. get the Stoeger
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby mudpack » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:30 am

Don't know what an 11-87 "superman" is, but the Sportsman would be what I would go with.....as long as it's a 3" gun.
11-87's in 3.5" tend to have more problems. Three inch 11-87's are pretty much bullet-proof.

(Remington's website doesn't even tell us what chamber the Sportsman has.... :huh: I assume a 3". )
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby Goosebuster72 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:07 am

I do like my Remington's.. Ive noticed all the newer guns seem to rust rather easy.. My 11-87 and sp10 are older Remington's and they shoot great , soft recoil and they don't seem to rust ever..
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby j4038 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:43 am

Im a remington guy. Shot 870s for years. Decided to treat myself and boys to an automatic. Have friends with 3in. 1187s that have run thousands of rounds through them with zero problems in dove and duck hunts. I bought three 1187s 3.5 inch for our anual trip to Arkansas. Its a good thing we brought the 870 for backup. Had problems with two of the three. Minor 20 dollar fixes for the gunsmith ar Macks but still frustrating. Im pretty sure the bugs are out but its still in the back of your mind. Went through a few more boxes over the next two days with no problems. Bought 3.5 guns for the occasional turkey. Just wanted the option. 3 inch 1187s are tanks from my experience. 3.5 inch guns Im not to sure of. Never owned a stoeger, just giving my 1187 experience. Good Luck
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby z51 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:27 am

I've owned an 11-87 SP MAG for over 20 years. It's still running strong.
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby Goosebuster72 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:44 am

z51 wrote:I've owned an 11-87 SP MAG for over 20 years. It's still running strong.


Indeed, all mine are older Remington's.. I have no experience with any of the newer Remington's .. All 20+ years old.. 1187sp ( early generation with teeebark camo,sp10 ,"85" 1100 mag.. All shoot amazing.
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby Cripple.creek » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:47 pm

Have you tried shouldering the guns and maybe tries swinging them around? What one feels like its weighted in your hands better? Both are going to make you happy. I think people judge the 3500 based on their experiences with the 2000. I think the 3500 is much more reliable. Also, the 11-87 is a time-honored gun. I would see what fits best. If you were willing to go to a 3-inch gun, i would suggest looking at the Franchis. To me they are a whole lot of gun for what you pay for. On another note, the Stoeger is quite easy to disassemble, fast. This can be a good think when you are out in the bayou.
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby bickford » Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:41 pm

I love my 1187. I don't know how old it is, but its pretty old. $300 at a pawn shop years ago and it's been reliable. One time I had trouble bc i didn't keep it clean but other than that it's been great. Mine gets dirty pretty quick and it doesn't matter what ammo I use.
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby SouthernIllinoishunter » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:00 pm

I've shot my bestfriends 11-87 and it just didn't feel right at all and to me it's more heavier than a 3500. I own a stoeger 2000 and frequently shoot my dads 3500 both stoegers shoulder well and swing with ease. Both of our stoegers have fired 100s of rounds and not one cycling problem has occurred. I'd pick the stoeger
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Re: Remington 11-87 or Stoeger 3500

Postby duckdozer » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:09 am

I am not sure if you have seen this or not yet but I have absolutely put my m3500 through the ringer with no issues that weren't related to my own faults. I havent shot or even been around a new 1187 but I havent heard good things about them that I why I bought the stoeger, that and I wanted to put it through the ringer. The guy I bought mine from said he has sold 50+ of them and has only had 1 come back and it was due to not cycling light light trap loads, he sold it to another guy that wasnt going to shoot light trap loads with it and that guy loved it. He said he shot 3 boxes of heavy loads through it and it cycled the light ones just fine. I didnt give mine a break in period, I just started shooting anything I could put in it.

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