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Which shell

Postby Bigpuddin43 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:16 pm

Ok guys was just messing around at my buddy's house last weekend and he had an old door that came out of his shop so I decided to pattern my two waterfowl loads. I shot 3" #2's kent silver steel and 3.5" bb kent silver steel. Both at 40 yards and had almost identical patterns. Would the 3" bring down geese as well as the bb or should I stick with the bb for geese. I didn't count pellets and was just thinking about it after the fact but honestly looking at it could not tell which pattern was which if you didn't know. Also penetration was very similar as most dented the back side and 3-5 pellets of each went clean thru. Just looking for suggestions on what to shoot. We usually aren't firing shots over 50 yards.
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Re: Which shell

Postby mudpack » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:19 pm

If both loads produced identical patterns, both density- and uniformity-wise, I'd go with the BB's.
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Re: Which shell

Postby Bigpuddin43 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:22 pm

I was just thinking if they are uniform why not go with the cheaper shell is there a huge benefit to the bbs.
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Re: Which shell

Postby Jon Bergren » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:43 pm

What's the velocity of the 2's and BB's. With this info I can give you the distance that they will penetrate to kill. Ned S
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Re: Which shell

Postby gooseman1 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:55 pm

Kent silver steel is 1450fps, the only difference in SS and Faststeel is plated shot
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Re: Which shell

Postby Bigpuddin43 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:26 am

Correct they are both 1450 fps
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Re: Which shell

Postby Sagebrush » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:32 am

1450fps BB's would work on large Honkers at 45-50 yards ,no problem with all but going away shots.
I have used as low as 1295 1 1/4oz. BB's for 40 yard geese but only if coming in or going over me at 40-45 yards.

I prefer 1550fps but your loads will work if you know how far they will kill at your elevation if you have a energy chart.
I have used smaller size pellets but always come back to BB's for maximum energy to break wing bones and get by those heavy feathers, since I mostly hunt ducks and the geese are c/o pass shooting shots,90% of the time.
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Re: Which shell

Postby Jon Bergren » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:17 am

Withoout speed I would use the BB's. Ned S
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Re: Which shell

Postby SirPuddleDuck » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:15 pm

I agree BBs and that speed will be fine at that range. The problem becomes distance guesstimates and the birds really are farther but that's another story!
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Re: Which shell

Postby mudpack » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:30 am

Jon Bergren wrote:What's the velocity of the 2's and BB's. With this info I can give you the distance that they will penetrate to kill. Ned S


ned is far too one-dimensional in his advice.
Those "penetrate to kill" figures tell nothing about the effectiveness of a particular load. It only deals with the maximum distance at which an individual pellet of X size, traveling at Y velocity will penetrate ballistic gelatin Z inches.
In almost every case, the effective pattern of a load will fail long before the penetrating energy of the individual pellets dissipates to below acceptable minimums. In other words, those "penetrate to kill" yardages are the last thing to worry about.

If PTK ranges were the only thing that is important in deciding on a load, we'd all be shooting T shot at 2200fps. :rolleyes:
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