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11-87 20 gauge

Postby Assault » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:37 pm

Looking at getting the wife a 11-87 20 gauge. Any pro's/con's? I know they had problems with the 12 gauge super mag. Just wondering about the 20 gauge.
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby BurninPowder » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:04 pm

Biggest thing I've ever seen with an 11-87 is the o-ring... keep a spare. They're not expensive and they don't go out often but when they do! Repaired a bent shell latch on a 12Ga SM one time but I believe that was owner error. Other than that just check it over as you would any other shotgun.
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby hamernhonkers » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:07 pm

My 11-87 was my primary duck gun for 3 years and I have owned it for 5. It took a back seat last year to a new sx3 20 for most of my waterfowl gunning.

During its three year run as my pet it had around 6 to 7 cases of 3" steel loads and I would guess 5000+ trap and dove loads. The only issue it had was the extractor broke and I had to replace it.

They are a good gun but like any other gun you need to take care of it and clean it regularly :thumbsup:
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby BurninPowder » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:17 pm

MIM extractor no doubt? If so, I've heard of this before as well. Easy cheap fix. Good call HH.
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby Assault » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:34 pm

Thanks for the input. I have OCD when it comes to cleaning and maintaining my guns! So maintenance is no issue.
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby hamernhonkers » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:41 pm

BurninPowder wrote:MIM extractor no doubt? If so, I've heard of this before as well. Easy cheap fix. Good call HH.



It is a very simple and cheap fix. Only 5 bucks for the extractor if I remember right. In fact I think shipping cost me more :no: :lol3:
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby BurninPowder » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:09 pm

Yeah those Metal Injection Molded extractors are very inconsistent and can develop weak points and eventually break. Have even seen them develop sharp edges that can rip hulls and hinder ejection of the spent shell. I'm as big a Rem fan as you'll find but I just don't see why they didn't tighten up that QC sooner. I think they've created a hit with the new VM though and QC seems to have improved as well. One positive of their small QC problems... I've scored some great deals in the used market :grooving:
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby hamernhonkers » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:44 pm

Assault,

In case of any recoil questions, I just got back from shooting a few clays. My wife got a new a400 a couple days ago so she had to get out and shoot it. I took my sx3 along with the 11-87 and had her compare felt recoil to her among the three. The a400 is cast off and drop is fitted to her. My sx3 is cast on and lengthened to fit me and the 11-87 is natural cast. She is 5'7" and a buck twenty. To her the felt recoil was similar between the sx3 and 11-87 with the 400 feeling like it kicked harder. She said the 400 was sharper and the other two were longer and felt softer. I thought the same when I shot her a400. Non of them bothered her shooting but she could feel the difference in them.

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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby Assault » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:18 am

hamernhonkers wrote:Assault,

In case of any recoil questions, I just got back from shooting a few clays. My wife got a new a400 a couple days ago so she had to get out and shoot it. I took my sx3 along with the 11-87 and had her compare felt recoil to her among the three. The a400 is cast off and drop is fitted to her. My sx3 is cast on and lengthened to fit me and the 11-87 is natural cast. She is 5'7" and a buck twenty. To her the felt recoil was similar between the sx3 and 11-87 with the 400 feeling like it kicked harder. She said the 400 was sharper and the other two were longer and felt softer. I thought the same when I shot her a400. Non of them bothered her shooting but she could feel the difference in them.

Just in case the helps ya any in your decision.

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I know the A400 and Sx3 hit harder thane what my Versa max hits. My wife shoots my Versa max, but its to heavy for her. Right now I have her shooting my 870 20 gauge 28" with 3" black clouds (junk ammo). The gun she started off shooting was a stoeger side by side. So she knows the difference of recoil! She didn't even ask for a new gun. She like my 870, but I'd prefer getting her a gun for herself (also my collection grows)
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby BurninPowder » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:42 am

Assault wrote: but I'd prefer getting her a gun for herself (also my collection grows)

I like how you did this :yes:
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby Assault » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:18 am

Hey, it's just another reason to get another gun!
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby hamernhonkers » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:26 pm

Assault wrote:Hey, it's just another reason to get another gun!



I hear that lol.


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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby mudpack » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:35 pm

Bought a new 20ga. 11-87 about seven years ago. Could not get it to shoot 20 shells with stovepiping or hanging up a fresh shell at the chamber mouth. Liked the gun otherwise. Sold it six months ago and bought a new 20ga. SX3.
It's not perfect, either...it double-feeds.
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby hamernhonkers » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:51 pm

mudpack wrote:Bought a new 20ga. 11-87 about seven years ago. Could not get it to shoot 20 shells with stovepiping or hanging up a fresh shell at the chamber mouth. Liked the gun otherwise. Sold it six months ago and bought a new 20ga. SX3.
It's not perfect, either...it double-feeds.



mud you just have much luck with guns do ya :eek:
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Re: 11-87 20 gauge

Postby mudpack » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:54 am

Terrible luck with 20ga autoloaders! I have three 12 ga. autos that give me few problems, and pumps and O/U's in both gages have been perfect. The 20 autos are my nemesis!
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