20ga for 13yo??? sugestions???

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Re: 20ga for 13yo??? sugestions???

Postby winchester1852 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:30 pm

cluckmeister wrote:winchester1852 wrote:

didn't say 20g a is not going to kill. just he's going to out grow the gauge and eventually get a 12ga so why not start with a 12ga buy once. 20 and 12 not much different in recoil depends on the gun itself . i can use a stick and it will kill just as well as the 12s i own .

Winchester1852, the young man out grow the gun, not the gauge and if he turns out to be a fellow that loves hunting, thru the years, I venture to say he will end up owning several different types of guns as well a variety of gauges

BTW my favorite gun for shooting doves and teal over decoys, is a Remington Model 1100 G3 20 gauge.

he will eventually get a 12ga. it impossible to out grow a gauge but he will get a 12ga sooner or later.
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Re: 20ga for 13yo??? sugestions???

Postby shoveler_shooter » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:05 pm

Justin Weber wrote:He will learn to swing better with a 20 gauge. A shot considered hard by many that should be and is a give me shot. I didnt start shooting a 12 until I was 15 years old. My Dad always used a 20 gauge for geese and had to sit around and wait for his buddies to shoot a limit with their 12's. Obviously a 12 gauge is the load of choice by waterfowlers and is more effective at killing ducks. I still think its better to have a kid start out on a 20 to teach him to shoot better in essence if that makes sense. Theirs more room for error with a 12 guage. A 20 and 12 also have quite a bit of recoil difference to. Go grab a 3" load of each and you will notice. I might just bring a 20 gauge on my next goose hunt!

Not sure what you mean by "swing better", but if you meant shoot better I'd agree with that. I didn't use a 12 until I was 17-18.
A 12 is much more effective on geese and larger ducks at moderate-farther distances than a 20, which is why if he goes on a goose hunt he'll wanna have a 12.
For recoil difference I said 12ga 2 3/4" vs 20ga 3". The difference won't be very much and the shorter 12ga hull is still superior to a 3" 20ga.
I love my 20ga SX3 but I realize its limitations and switch to a more effective tool for larger waterfowl at farther distances.
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Re: 20ga for 13yo??? sugestions???

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:13 am

get some 1 1/16thoz game bore loads and recoil is much more manageable as you dont reload thats probably the lightest game load you may find. they worked well for us this year and were loads softer shooting than the other loads we had.
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Re: 20ga for 13yo??? sugestions???

Postby dakotashooter2 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:14 pm

I still like the idea of a 20 ga for a kid. FYI the forestock on a winchester youth model is set back further than most other youth guns and seems to allow a little more flex in the elbow and greater support/balance when shooting it.

The limitations of the 20 are a great learning/teaching tool. I like to teach kids to shoot at "close" birds. With a 12 they can be tempted to take shots they are not ready for yet. Often clipping one long range bird in ten with a 12 ga can set them on a path as a long range shooter/skybuster. A 20 is going to give them negative feedback on those long range shots.

I went from a 410 to 20 to 12 by the time I was 16............ by the time I was 30 I was back to the 20 ga. with as much success as I have with the 12. I NEVER regret taking the 20 ga afield.

This was this morning with the 20 ga. FYI that is a Tristar O/U that set me back just under $400 new a couple years back.
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Re: 20ga for 13yo??? sugestions???

Postby thomashamm2 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:44 am

if hes 13 he can handle a 12 gauge. i was shooting 12 guage 3 inch ammo when i was ten. But him an 870
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Re: 20ga for 13yo??? sugestions???

Postby Anoldhuntersc » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:24 pm

Weatherby AO-8. Great auto. Can find used 20 sometimes around 350-400. Also makes 12's. own 2 mossberg bantam 500 20 gauge pumps both my sons started with. Never a problem. Shot 1 for 5 years. Other is on 3rd year. Switched to 12 gauge at 12 almost 13.
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Re: 20ga for 13yo??? sugestions???

Postby Hunterhog » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:36 am

Justin Weber wrote:I shot a 20 at that age. The kick of a 12 guage can cause bad habits when the shooter is that young. The old suck it up attitude is not the best approach. Taking the time to have him comfortably shokt what be likes until hes ready to shoot a 12 is your best bet.

Agreed. I hunted for years with an old pawn shop Beretta 20ga. pump until I got an 870 Express 20ga. for Christmas when I was around 13. Hunted with that until a little before high school, when I got my grandfather's old 12ga. Remington 870 Wingmaster, which only took 2 3/4 shells. After a few years with that, I bought a Camo 870 Express Super Mag and have had it ever since.

In my opinion, the best way to bring a kid up hunting is to do it like my dad did and ease up the food chain over the years. Give your kid a pawn shop special and let him learn proper handling, care and aim. After he learns (and exhibits) those traits, you can move up.
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Re: 20ga for 13yo??? sugestions???

Postby dakotashooter2 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:58 pm

When I switched from a 20 to a 12 ga pump I think I spent my first 2 years shucking out shells as fast as a could and not hitting nearly as much as I should have. The duck count may have been up but so was the shell count.
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