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the barrel says 3"

Postby garlicsalt » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:15 pm

If the barrel reads 3"shells dose that mean 3"shells only or both 2 3/4" and 3"?
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby mawtrfowler » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:24 pm

anything 3" and smaller
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby garlicsalt » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:56 pm

Thanks mawtrfowler, the reason i asked is i have a FABARM LION H368 and it will not cycle light 2 3/4 target loads. wont even try to eject them. they get stuck in the chamber and thats that. high bass 2 3/4 and 3" no sweat. the gun reads right there on the side MADE IN ITALY CAL.12-3". I had a feeling that was the case (3"& smaller) but wanted to see what folks round here think. any body else got this rig? (H368) oh yeah the gun is as cleaned after every hunt or should i saw hunt weekend about every 50 to 150 rounds so dont you fellas start with that. thanks guys
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby mawtrfowler » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:01 pm

Hows does it do with 2 3/4" field loads? The light loads probably just aren't strong enough to bring the bolt back to the point that the extractor will toss them out. What target loads are you using?
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby garlicsalt » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:18 pm

I'm sure thats the case, they are the walmart econo pack 1 1/8 oz. 71/2s econo pack =4 box's for 20$ thanks again for your responses mawtrfowler. good duckn
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby BBK » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:57 pm

garlicsalt wrote:I'm sure thats the case, they are the walmart econo pack 1 1/8 oz. 71/2s econo pack =4 box's for 20$ thanks again for your responses mawtrfowler. good duckn


I've never seen those not cycle a gun meant for 2 3/4 and 3". They will cycle an inertia benelli no problem. The federals do hang up sometimes though. When there used to be a chance of still getting those shells, I chose the remingtons first (used the hulls for reloading) and then the universals. For the same price you could get winchester eco shells by the box so I never shot federals. So maybe if you have the federals you should give the others a try.

While I have NO experience with your gun, I would do some research to see if it is in fact a 2 3/4 and 3" gun. Some guns, like the 1100 magnum were designed for 3" shells and the little 2 3/4 (minus the heavy field loads) would not cycle.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby mudpack » Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:09 pm

Guns chambered for 3" shells are also designed to shoot 2 3/4" ammo. If your FABARMs won't cycle those 1 1/8oz loads, then something is amiss with the gun; either a design flaw or a malfunctioning component; a 1 1/8oz promo load is NOT a light target load, it is a stout load.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby A5Mag12 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:48 am

A 1 1/8 oz. 12 ga. lead load is a light load. I would bet your gun is working just fine. Hard to find much info on the gun but I'd say it is a true 3" magnum gun that is not supposed to cycle light loads.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby garlicsalt » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:43 am

thanks for chiming in guys, anybody out there shooting or no someone shooting this shotgun or perhaps shooting the RED LION witch i'm thinking is perdy much the same gun just with wood stock and forend ? thanx again
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby mudpack » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:05 pm

A5Mag12 wrote:A 1 1/8 oz. 12 ga. lead load is a light load.

Only if you don't shoot much clay target games. Compared to 1 1/4oz Express loads, it is lighter.
But there are a ton of 12ga loads on the market that are much lighter than the 1 1/8 promo loads, which are usually around 1200fps or higher. There are duck loads on the market that produce much the same recoil.

A 1 1/8oz promo load should cycle all 3" actions. If it doesn't, then there is a problem with the gun.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby A5Mag12 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:17 pm

mudpack wrote:
A5Mag12 wrote:A 1 1/8 oz. 12 ga. lead load is a light load.

Only if you don't shoot much clay target games. Compared to 1 1/4oz Express loads, it is lighter.
But there are a ton of 12ga loads on the market that are much lighter than the 1 1/8 promo loads, which are usually around 1200fps or higher. There are duck loads on the market that produce much the same recoil.

A 1 1/8oz promo load should cycle all 3" actions. If it doesn't, then there is a problem with the gun.

You don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby BBK » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:24 pm

12ga 1 1/8 is a "heavy trap load". 1oz 1250fps is now standard for 12ga target loads, most serious shooters are going to 3/4 for practice and 7/8 in matches.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby A5Mag12 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:56 am

The gun in question is not a trap gun it is a hunting gun. There are several 12 gauge autos that are not designed to shoot anything lighter than 1 1/4 oz loads. 3/4 to 7/8 oz loads will not cycle most 12 ga autos .
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby aunt betty » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:01 am

Trap gun, hunting gun...what the h?

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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby mudpack » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:14 am

A5Mag12 wrote: There are several 12 gauge autos that are not designed to shoot anything lighter than 1 1/4 oz loads.


This is true. But we are not talking about a 3.5" gun, we are discussing the OP's 3" FABARM. A properly-designed and -functioning 3" gun should shoot a heavy target/field load.....which would include the 1 1/8oz promo load.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby garlicsalt » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:28 am

ok ok guys no need to argue over lil ol me but i kinda like it. thanx for your responces.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby A5Mag12 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:32 pm

mudpack wrote:
A5Mag12 wrote: There are several 12 gauge autos that are not designed to shoot anything lighter than 1 1/4 oz loads.


This is true. But we are not talking about a 3.5" gun, we are discussing the OP's 3" FABARM. A properly-designed and -functioning 3" gun should shoot a heavy target/field load.....which would include the 1 1/8oz promo load.

I'm not talking about a 3 1/2" gun either. You must be one very blissful fellow.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby Sagebrush » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:44 am

BBK;
"12ga 1 1/8 is a "heavy trap load". 1oz 1250fps is now standard for 12ga target loads".....

In our leagues the standard 1oz trap load is still the 1oz at 1180fps with the sporting clays c/o the 3 1/2 Dram at 1350fps.

The standard 1 1/8oz trap load is still the 2 3/4 dram at 1145 fps and the clays are c/o the 3 1/4 dram loads.........
A Heavy 1 1/8oz trap load is at 3 drams and has a 1200 fps MV.........used mainly for Handicap shooting.
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Re: the barrel says 3"

Postby Art Vandelay » Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:04 am

and it will not cycle light 2 3/4 target loads


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