Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

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Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby steelshotshooter » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:37 pm

Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

I have a chance to buy one or the other, OR both 10 ga. shotguns...

I know the Remington is suppose to be patterned after the Ithaca but, is one any better than the other?

Both guns have walnut stocks and 30" barrels. The Remington is new and the Ithaca has seen very little use and has no scratches on the wood and the bluing is near perfect...

Should I buy them both or ???
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby gearhead80 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:58 pm

Sure if the price is right.. They are basically the same gun. Remington got the patent to it when Ithaca went out of business. I have a Mag 10 and love it!!
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:07 pm

I have had both and IMO, the SP10 is the way to go. It has screw in chokes which is a big difference in choosing.

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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby steelshotshooter » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:01 pm

The Ithaca Mag10 has a 32" barrel and not a 30" as I previously stated. It has also had Briley Choke Tubes installed by Briley - paperwork included...

I bought both guns for $1,500 cash. Was that a good deal or not?

Okay, now I gotta start looking up 10 ga. steel shot data and components. What do you guys like?
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:19 pm

In average condition, good deal, used price would have been 600 for the SP10 and 400 for the Mag10. I just yesterday talked to a fellow shooter that bought a NIB SP10 for 499. I believe he said he got it from Gander Mountain. I bought my last like new Gold 10 for $500 shipped.

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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby steelshotshooter » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:43 pm

Maybe I didn't do so good then...

The Remington is new in the box - unfired and the the Ithaca looks just as clean and came with 5 Briley choke tubes...

I use to shoot a Browning 10 ga. BPS that a customer gave me years ago and all I ever used it for was busting crows. Jim gave me a case of 2 1/4 oz. copper plated #6 in a 3 1/2" factory load and needless to say, it was murder on them crows...

I've wanted a 10 ga. ever since, for waterfowl and now I've got 2! I guess I'll carry one for a loaner if an extra gun is ever needed....
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:58 pm

Since you stated the gun's condition, maybe you didnt do so bad. Since you plan to keep them, that makes it even better. I recently sold a limited edition sp10 that had a less than a box of shell through it for $800. It was a superb gun. My first thought was it they were both NIB, that price tag would be really close.

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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby steelshotshooter » Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:18 pm

These two guns I'll never part with...

I've dreamed about an Ithaca Mag10 for a long time, and to have one as clean as this one, and from the original owner, I'll take great pride in its ownership...

You did not like your SP10?
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:30 pm

I have killed alot of birds with the SP but I had two of them and sold one. I still also have two Gold 10s which I like emencely more than the Rem. Right now I am in a new project mold so to speak as I am going into the 20ga world. I have never used one for ducks and geese but I intend to give it a shot. I am fixing to buy a Hatsan Escort Supreme 20ga new. I have about 99% made up my mind for this gun.

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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby steelshotshooter » Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:33 pm

Chris,

what are "Gold 10's"?

I thought about going to the 20 ga. since my wife does so well with hers. I hope you'll give your 20 ga. reports after you start bagging ducks and geese....
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:48 pm

Oh you can be sure I will give reports. My friends are already telling me what a big mistake I am making, buying a Escort 20ga auto. I intend to get my gun first, get it lined out with a extended choke and will probably start out with buying a case of 3" Kent steel shot shells. That should do me for awhile until I can get all my reloading equipment together for 20ga. I also have thoughts of using HW13 in it too as a friend is going to split the purchase of some with me. I also have 14 pounds of #2 hevi shot that I have been saving for something special. maybe the 20ga is it.
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby steelshotshooter » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:21 pm

I guess that just shows how far behind I am on shotguns. I didn't even know Browning made a semi-auto 10 ga.. Thanks for enlightening me on this...

I have shot a couple of the Escort 20 ga. with Kent Faststeel and they performed great, just like the Weatherby SA-08 20 ga....
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby cluckmeister » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:31 pm

10gaOkie wrote:In average condition, good deal, used price would have been 600 for the SP10 and 400 for the Mag10. I just yesterday talked to a fellow shooter that bought a NIB SP10 for 499. I believe he said he got it from Gander Mountain. I bought my last like new Gold 10 for $500 shipped.

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If he bought a NIB SP10 for 500 he stole it and Ive NEVER found a bargain either new or used at Gander, theyre high on prices in general
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby Yuchi1 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:05 am

In Tulsa, used SP10's are going from $500-900USD, depending upon condition.

BTW, the Ithaca Mag-10 is nowhere near the weapon the SP10 as once Remington bought the patent (from the bankruptcy trustee) they basically reworked the internals and fixed some of the "bugs" the Mag-10 was known for. Do a search on it and you will quickly see what I'm talking about. The Mag-10 is a good weapon, you just have to be aware on some of it's warts.
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby hillbilly.. » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:18 am

[quote="steelshotshooter"]Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?



Both guns have walnut stocks and 30" barrels.
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walnut??? Ill have to dig mine out I didn't think that they were walnut stocks.

I bought 2 mag10s last spring one with less then a box fired threw it for 500 with a 32" and then another with a 32" barrel then a 26" with chokes for 500 also and that one I had to have shipped to me from Kansas. and from what ive been told there both the deluxe edition and one has a little guy on the stock plate and I was sold by les he was the ceo or sumthing at the the time.
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby gearhead80 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:44 am

Yuchi1 wrote:In Tulsa, used SP10's are going from $500-900USD, depending upon condition.

BTW, the Ithaca Mag-10 is nowhere near the weapon the SP10 as once Remington bought the patent (from the bankruptcy trustee) they basically reworked the internals and fixed some of the "bugs" the Mag-10 was known for. Do a search on it and you will quickly see what I'm talking about. The Mag-10 is a good weapon, you just have to be aware on some of it's warts.


What changes did Remington make to the gun? I don't think the barrels interchange, but as far as the bolt/chamber area it looks identical to me.. I've even bought SP-10 parts to fix my dads Mag 10 after a couple gunsmiths told me they were the same.
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Re: Ithaca Mag10 or Rem. SP10?

Postby hillbilly.. » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:06 pm

gearhead80 wrote:
Yuchi1 wrote:In Tulsa, used SP10's are going from $500-900USD, depending upon condition.

BTW, the Ithaca Mag-10 is nowhere near the weapon the SP10 as once Remington bought the patent (from the bankruptcy trustee) they basically reworked the internals and fixed some of the "bugs" the Mag-10 was known for. Do a search on it and you will quickly see what I'm talking about. The Mag-10 is a good weapon, you just have to be aware on some of it's warts.


What changes did Remington make to the gun? I don't think the barrels interchange, but as far as the bolt/chamber area it looks identical to me.. I've even bought SP-10 parts to fix my dads Mag 10 after a couple gunsmiths told me they were the same.


sum say you can. sum say you have do alittle mod. and sum say no way. From what I heard was before rem bought ithica the contract was they had to change the design a bit before they released the sp10. How did you buy and sp10 cheaper then a mag 10 I haven't seen a sp10 for under 800 ive seen mag 10 from 200 on up to 700.
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