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Tristar auto shotguns

Postby EDP1 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:14 am

Does anyone here use one of these. I have been looking a new auto but don't have a lot of money. I have owned a Stoeger m2000 and a new Remington 11-87 supermag. Both I had a lot of problems with. I don't want a used gun and really like the Tristar 5 year warranty. Just checking to see what people that use them think?
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby MarkM » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:40 am

Check out the Weatherby SA-08. Know two people who have them and they won't even bother with another gun. Shot one of them and it handled very nicely. Only comes in 3" I believe.
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby Jon Bergren » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:11 am

Check out the Excell at The Academy. Great gun for the money at $350. Also the Escort for $450. I have both. Both guns are made in Turkey. The Excell is a black plastic built similiar to the 1100 with the bolt spring around the magazine where it should be. The Escort is Turkish walnut with a magazine cut off, raised rib, 5 chokes, shims for adjusting fit and chromed barrel also built llike the 1100 with the bolt spring also around the magazine. A beautiful gun. Both guns use Rem chokes. Ned S
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby dukhntr » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:23 am

by not having alot of money and buying new really limits what you can get in a good quality gun. I would consider a solid pump gun if that was the case. There are plenty of used guns that have been well maintained. My buddy just bought a Beretta Extrema (not Extrema 2) for $500. The guy he bought it from was old and had only shot it once. It was basically brand new. Those deals are out there....Good luck.
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby goosepit2007 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:50 pm

baikal mp153 is great gas gun that is perty cheap plus if want you have an option of 31/2 loads.....the return spring is around the mag tube,not much can go wrong...they now come with extended tubes marked as use with steel shot.

i was fortunate that the full and extended tubes worked out for the loads that i shoot. but i did order a carlson extended mod choke comparing against the factory full extended tube the carlsons was tad more even but both had tight core to patterns.

i have just about 2000 rounds of steelshot reloads/factory loads without hitch(no jams ect).

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good luck with your choice of semi -auto shotgun.
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby DuckManClyde » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:28 pm

That tristar viper silver is a sharp looking gun. I had a buddy whos dad got him a tristar semi, had it for 3 years and the cap poped off and ended up losing a bunch of pieces.
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby radfordc » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:49 pm

I bought a Tri-Star Viper 4 years ago and it worked perfect until this season. One morning it totally jammed. I drove over to North Kansas City to their office and 30 minutes later they had it fixed like new at no cost.
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby cootlover » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:04 pm

Weatherby and tri star are made by the same company. I have a tri star for my kids it goes bang when you pull the trigger it's not balanced like my M2 but it's a lot cheaper in price though .
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby mudpack » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:07 am

dukhntr wrote:by not having alot of money and buying new really limits what you can get in a good quality gun. I would consider a solid pump gun if that was the case.

I'm with dukhntr on this issue.
Since reliability seems to be a priority with you (as it is with all of us), I'd rule out the suggestions to buy the Baikal, the Excell, and the Weatherby, as well as the TriStar.
Don't let a 5-year warranty mislead you; it doesn't mean the gun is ultra-reliable. It means they'll fix it every time it breaks for five years, providing you pay to ship the gun to them (and they will NOT just send you a replacement part......)

In the long run, a good used example of a brand name model is your best bet. Remington (NOT an Express Supermag, which is a price-point gun and of known unreliability), Browning, Beretta, Benelli, Winchester SX-series, even a Mossberg (which is the best of the worst) should give you long, reliable service. If you insist on a new gun for your $500, well, you get what you pay for. Good luck with your decision.
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby radfordc » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:28 am

mudpack wrote: Don't let a 5-year warranty mislead you; it doesn't mean the gun is ultra-reliable. It means they'll fix it every time it breaks for five years, providing you pay to ship the gun to them (and they will NOT just send you a replacement part......)


I think they will send you a replacement part. When my gun broke it was the gas piston that went bad. I called Tri-Star and was told that I could send them the bad part and they would replace it, or I could send them the gun. Since they are only 30 miles from me I just took the gun to them and they replaced the part while I waited.

I agree that you usually get what you pay for, so I didn't expect much for a $350 automatic (on sale at Cabela's with a discount coupon). However, so far I really like the gun and it handles and shoots as well as anything I've ever shot. I did buy a Beretta A300 as my new primary gun this year and the Tri-Star is my backup.
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby radfordc » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:54 am

EDP1 wrote: I don't want a used gun and really like the Tristar 5 year warranty. Just checking to see what people that use them think?


I bought my Tri-Star Viper because my old Rem 11-87 Premier had started jamming now and then. The gun was on sale cheap and with the 5 year warranty I figured it was worth a shot and if I didn't like the gun I could sell it for a few bucks. For the four years I've hunted with it, the gun worked pretty much flawlessly and I loved the way it handles and points.

As I said above, this year the gun did break...the gas piston somehow got damaged and jammed on the magazine tube. I had to actually drive the gas piston off with a hammer and punch. The warranty turned out to be just what they said...they fixed the gun without charge. Hopefully the problem was a one time deal since the warranty expires next Jan. Even if I had bought the part the cost would have been less than $25.
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby Jon Bergren » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:18 pm

mudpack wrote:
dukhntr wrote:by not having alot of money and buying new really limits what you can get in a good quality gun. I would consider a solid pump gun if that was the case.

I'm with dukhntr on this issue.
Since reliability seems to be a priority with you (as it is with all of us), I'd rule out the suggestions to buy the Baikal, the Excell, and the Weatherby, as well as the TriStar.
Don't let a 5-year warranty mislead you; it doesn't mean the gun is ultra-reliable. It means they'll fix it every time it breaks for five years, providing you pay to ship the gun to them (and they will NOT just send you a replacement part......)

In the long run, a good used example of a brand name model is your best bet. Remington (NOT an Express Supermag, which is a price-point gun and of known unreliability), Browning, Beretta, Benelli, Winchester SX-series, even a Mossberg (which is the best of the worst) should give you long, reliable service. If you insist on a new gun for your $500, well, you get what you pay for. Good luck with your decision.


If you understand automatic designs you would say that the Excell is an excellent made gun eliminating all the parts that wear out on a 1100 except the 0 ring. When I bought mine 7 yrs ago this summer, I checked on the owners statements and they had shot 1200 rounds of trap thru them with out a problem. Mine hasn't failed me in 7 yrs shooting it in 10F without a hitch. Ned S
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby mudpack » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:53 pm

I understand autoloader design (if you understood gun design, you'd know that they are not automatics), so I know that design and execution are two very different aspects of gun building, just as they are in any manufactured product. Cheap guns are cheap for a reason, and it is more than just 'low-paid labor'. :thumbsup:
With guns, as with so much in life, you get exactly what you pay for.

Jon Bergren wrote: Mine hasn't failed me in 7 yrs shooting it in 10F without a hitch. Ned S

....so, in seven years you've put, what, about 20 boxes of shells through that gun? Hardly a commendation. :fingerpt:
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby Jon Bergren » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:11 pm

mudpack wrote:I understand autoloader design (if you understood gun design, you'd know that they are not automatics), so I know that design and execution are two very different aspects of gun building, just as they are in any manufactured product. Cheap guns are cheap for a reason, and it is more than just 'low-paid labor'. :thumbsup:
With guns, as with so much in life, you get exactly what you pay for.

Jon Bergren wrote: Mine hasn't failed me in 7 yrs shooting it in 10F without a hitch. Ned S

....so, in seven years you've put, what, about 20 boxes of shells through that gun? Hardly a commendation. :fingerpt:


Selective reading again. You forgot already that trap shooters have been using them for eight years. I guess understanding gun design is like understanding why shotcups with ejecta can spin going down the barrel. My Grandson even understands why, but he is a "brain". Ned S
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby JuniorPre 360 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:53 pm

I'd look into the Stoeger M3500. I absolutely love mine.
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Re: Tristar auto shotguns

Postby waterfowlhunter » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:22 pm

the Tristar, Excell, Escort, Weatherby, and Mossy 20ga semi auto and I am pretty sure the Stoegers are all out of the Turkey plant and in most cases it is pretty obvious that they are made in the same factories or with some of the same tooling. I have a few Escort pumps that I really like, they are basically a copy of an 870 and function as good as any modern 870 without the rust issue. I will say that the tristar's and Excell's I have handled feel nice and fit / handle well but they are use cheaper materials than any of the big boys. for instance when you go to clean the gas system you will notice that it etches the magazine tube and gas system and the carbon deposits are permanent. Where as in a Browning, Beretta or even Remington the magazine tubes and gas components clean right up like new with a little effort. I am expecting an Excell 3.5" in th eshop any time now for evaluation and I am looking forward to trying it out on the range and field.

The MP153 IMO is a very well built gun and if you keep your D&#@ skinners off the gas adjustment and don't screw it up the gun will work great. I have fixed more of these than necessary just because someone turned the adjustment to far one way or the other and then the gun either cycles too fast and jams up or will not cycle at all. I had one for a season or two and it had a habit of launching the bolt handle but I was told they started shipping them with a spare bolt handle so there was some apparent issue there. I wonder if they ever fixed it :huh:
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