Escort shotguns?

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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby 10gaOkie » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:55 pm

Prior to my Escort purchases, I spent a lot of time scanning the internet for reviews on this gun. Guns bought prior to 2008 did have alot of problems. Finding a bad review on any after that date is difficult. For the most part you could not expect any better reviews for a semi auto shotgun. On the other hand, reviews on the newer model guns like Beretta A400, Browning A5 and Benelli SBE2 show bad reviews for the most part.

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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby solway gunner » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:15 pm

OP buy one and just wait and see.
Put one through its paces with even factory 3.5" shells in quantity .,not just a half a box.Dont wrap it in cotton wool. Give one a pounding like any quality US or Italian gun will handle.When the firing pin bends ,and it starts misfiring,or jamming,or fails to feed ,when the choke tubes warp after using steel shot etc etc , find a recycling center and do the world a favor and turn it into something useful.
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby 10gaOkie » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:39 pm

Both of mine have 3" chambers. So I wont be shooting any 3.5s in them. No problems so far and I dont expect any.

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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby Luvbowhuntn » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:57 pm

10gaOkie wrote:Prior to my Escort purchases, I spent a lot of time scanning the internet for reviews on this gun. Guns bought prior to 2008 did have alot of problems. Finding a bad review on any after that date is difficult. For the most part you could not expect any better reviews for a semi auto shotgun. On the other hand, reviews on the newer model guns like Beretta A400, Browning A5 and Benelli SBE2 show bad reviews for the most part.

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:lol: :lol:
I can assure ya that everyone on here would be shooting an Escort if they were a better gun that was $1300 cheaper than the ones you mentioned having bad reviews. Really put that Escort through its paces and through a few seasons and see how it holds up
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby Jon Bergren » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:24 pm

I have a 3" Excort and plan on shoting it another 10 yrs. Ned S the young 85 yr old. :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby Jon Bergren » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:25 pm

The Escort has the locking block design, a helluva lot better than a rotating bolt that locks up. Ned S
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby 10gaOkie » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:14 pm

If you guys actually owned and were shooting an Escort, I would take more stock in what you are telling me. However, just because so and so had one and it was junk says nothing. I live in a city that is just shy of 2 mil population and only has one store that carries the Escort. They have only been on their shelves for less than a year. Before that, I had no idea what one was, never having the opportunity to be aware of one. Back in the day when the HKSBE's first appeared on the dealer's shelves, the first time I saw one, I knew from that moment I had to have one. I had the same feelings the first time I saw a Escort on a store shelf. I expect the performance of the Escort to be none less than my HkSBE. Also, I have another Turkish made shotgun called the Yildiz, not many if any shooters on DHC own one other than me. Yet, I have put more rounds through mine than any other shotgun I own and its worked like a charm with zero problems. I liked my Yildiz as well as my Citori and 686 and sold them after getting the Yildiz.

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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby mudpack » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:14 am

10gaOkie wrote: Finding a bad review on any (Escorts) after that date is difficult. .... On the other hand, reviews on the newer model guns like Beretta A400, Browning A5 and Benelli SBE2 show bad reviews for the most part.

I think I know the reason; when we buy a $400 shotgun and have minor problems, it is easily dismissed as 'coming with the territory'....and we focus on the "good" points (price) of the gun. When we buy a $1600 shotgun and have the same minor problem, we are outraged....and we tend to complain to the world. Human nature, is what it is.

Several people have first- or second-hand experience with the Escort; solway, 'dutchman, wfhunter...and have reported here.
10gaOkie feels the Escort is as good or better than a B-gun (according to the reviews he mentions). He's owned his Escort for "a few months". Ned has owned his for several (4?) years, but we know he only hunts 1 to 3 times a year at the most. Not a lot of "seat-time" for the Escort fans on this thread. Maybe their opinions will change after putting 5 or 6 cases of shells through them (if they ever do that), maybe their opinions will be reenforced....who knows.

I've never owned a Russian/Turkish/Chinese gun, and never will. I may go cheap on lawn fertilizer and wiper blades, but I won't buy cheap waterfowl equipment. Duck hunting is far too important to me.

That said, everyone has to establish his own priorities; cost, value, durability, efficiency, pride of ownership, effectiveness. There is no universally right or wrong choice for everyone. Careful consideration when choosing a shotgun is the basis for making the right decision.

10gaOkie wrote: just because so and so had one and it was junk says nothing.
Oh, really?? And I suppose just because so-and-so had one and it was great says everything? :huh: Let's be real; both are reports of someone's first-hand experiences....and both are equally valid.
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby KRB » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:35 am

Thanks MP thought I was going to have to sell my A400 and get an escort
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby mudpack » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:35 am

:lol3:
If you do decide to sell the A400, let me know. I have fallen in love with the A400, and as soon as I wear out my Xtrema2, I'm going to get one! :yes:
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby Jon Bergren » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:13 am

I don't know how Mudpack can get things so screwed up. I bought my ESCORT early this year and never took it hunting as the duck season was over, not 4 yrs ago. Also I went duck hunting about 8 times last season due too taking care of a invalid wife. I examined my Escort thoroughly before I bought it and it is built similiar to a Rem 1100 using the locking block design with bolt spring around the magazine where is should be. I can't see where I will have any problems with this gun. I shot it several times and it cycled fine with my reloads. I'm with 10 gageokie regarding this gun. Ned S
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby 10gaOkie » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:55 am

The only negative things I have found with the Escort is LOP, poor recoil pad and lack of sling swivels. My Yildiz had the same problem. Had to cut its stock and add a Pachmayr. Those Turks cant seem to get LOP right. The Escorts come with LOP shims but the LOP does not need to be longer they need to be shorter. I ordered two replacement mag caps from Legacy that have swivels. I also am in the process of cutting the stocks and adding a better grind to fit pad. If you buy one that has synthetic stocks, you are asking for trouble adjusting LOP and adding a better recoil pad.

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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby mudpack » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:08 pm

Jon Bergren wrote: I bought my ESCORT early this year and never took it hunting as the duck season was over... I shot it several times...

So, your experience with the Escort....to date....is virtually zero.
If that's the case, on what do you base your claim that the Escort is an excellent shotgun? That it looks like an 1100?

It appears that, at this point, the Escort has a credible fan base of one: 10gaOkie.
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby goosepit2007 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:42 pm

10gaOkie wrote:With Goosepit's help, this is what I came up with concerning the chokes. This should be a reliable guide when making a Escort purchase.....

20ga, V1 = Huglu threads
20ga, V2 = Rem choke threads

12ga, V1 = Mobil threads
12ga, V2 = unique threads
12ga, V3 = Rem choke threads

Most of the Escorts on dealers shelves or current production guns, should have the Rem choke threads. By using this guide, you will know what you are getting. The chokes will be marked either v1, v2 or v3.

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took me little while to get that info from legacy sports(little reluctant to give the info out) then i relayed info to chris!!! it is good info straight from legacy sports international.
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby solway gunner » Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:52 pm

mudpack wrote:
Jon Bergren wrote: I bought my ESCORT early this year and never took it hunting as the duck season was over... I shot it several times...

So, your experience with the Escort....to date....is virtually zero.
If that's the case, on what do you base your claim that the Escort is an excellent shotgun? That it looks like an 1100?

It appears that, at this point, the Escort has a credible fan base of one: 10gaOkie.


I didnt originaly post to hurt anyones feelings on their purchase-just trying to protect people-Im no gun snob myself, I use old but I use what works reliably-like yourself I dont need/want any grief in the blind with gun malfunctions.Weve had the misfortune of those things blighting our market for nearly 10yrs and 98% of users report trouble in some way or another with them.Read my second post-all from experience -from my Mrs gun to other users reporting not all of those malfunctions,but most of them.Personally I had to endure the full package.Ask any UK user of their opinion on them.

Sorry guys,but they can appear to be built with Remington 1100 look a like parts and the action may even resemble a Berretta 300 series ,but thats as close as theyl ever get to those old thoroughbreds...just look at the choke thread configurations -three for the 12ga barrel alone-doesnt that just say it all...
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby Tgunz_64 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:52 pm

My brother read your posts and inputs and appreciates the help. Like most gun models there's always pros and cons like everything else. But when he saw that a company is using 3 or 4 different choke tubes, it's just ridiculous I think. He is going to steer away from Escort and go a different route. They seem to lack consistency in the manufacturing and he doesn't care for that. Especially if you ever need to by parts later on. I don't like it either. Thanks for the inputs!
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby flyndutchman » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:17 am

Chris, be careful with the mag caps with the sling swivel stud. We had to replace the one on my old partner's gun because the little circlip groove broke out. His gun went for a swim because of it. Replaced with a Uncle Mike's stud with a nut.
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby 10gaOkie » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:52 am

I have had them in all of my guns for over twenty five years. Never had a problem.

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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby 3200 man » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:57 am

Opinions on what makes a good shotgun is in what we have to spend in dollars for the one we bought ?

Relying on quality of the materials used to make this gun , can be of question though !

So , I chose to go with a company with a tract record of building quality shotguns for a hundred years , rather than being

in a blind with a gun that can give me problems or one I can't find parts for !

I'll stay with a B gun and fill-in with a Remington . :thumbsup:
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby 10gaOkie » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:47 pm

The two brands of shotguns I have had the most problems with are #1 Remington and #2 Benelli. However, I fix the problem and move on. The only two brands of shotguns that have left me as a spectator and not a shooter on important hunts are Remington and Benelli. By no means does this make these brands POS guns.

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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby 3200 man » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:06 pm

Some fellas can keep their guns shooting as they understand how to maintain / repair them . Parts or repair shops in most
cities have the means of getting parts in a week or so ( sometimes longer ) if it's a major brand of shotgun but , if a fella is
willing to go with a off the wall brand , he most likely will be sending that gun out of this Country to have it repaired , Maybe !
All you have to do before buying one of these guns is , ask where can you buy parts for it ? As it doesn't have a track record
of what could go wrong , if it did .

Like the sign on the wall in most gun shops say .......when parts come in , you will be next !

Buyer beware......if you can't talk to a manufacture here in the USA or repair shop .
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby jpari » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:15 pm

mudpack wrote::lol3:
If you do decide to sell the A400, let me know. I have fallen in love with the A400, and as soon as I wear out my Xtrema2, I'm going to get one! :yes:

Mudpack,
If you are going to wait until you wear out your Xtrema2 in order to buy an A400 you may be waiting a really long time. The Xtrema2 is one tough gun! :thumbsup:
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby mudpack » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:43 pm

The two brands of shotguns I have had the most problems with are #1 Remington and #2 Browning.
That might be because they are the brands I shoot the most.

jpari wrote:Mudpack,
If you are going to wait until you wear out your Xtrema2 in order to buy an A400 you may be waiting a really long time. The Xtrema2 is one tough gun! :thumbsup:

I know! :lol3: Especially considering the amount I shoot it.... (I'll put two cases of shells through my Gold in a season. I may put two boxes of shells through the Xtrema. )
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby goosepit2007 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:30 am

goosepit2007 wrote:
10gaOkie wrote:With Goosepit's help, this is what I came up with concerning the chokes. This should be a reliable guide when making a Escort purchase.....

20ga, V1 = Huglu threads
20ga, V2 = Rem choke threads

12ga, V1 = Mobil threads
12ga, V2 = unique threads
12ga, V3 = Rem choke threads

Most of the Escorts on dealers shelves or current production guns, should have the Rem choke threads. By using this guide, you will know what you are getting. The chokes will be marked either v1, v2 or v3.

Chris


took me little while to get that info from legacy sports(little reluctant to give the info out) then i relayed info to chris!!! it is good info straight from legacy sports international.
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Re: Escort shotguns?

Postby Indtruckman » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:45 pm

V2 choke on 20ga looks just like remington choke, I call Trulock and was told pitch of treads are little off, just like bolt with 10/ 28 treads and 10/32. You force into the hole but it is not the right choke. I called the factory and had to order turkey choke for my kid. I ask the question again, they said it was Remington choke and I said it looks like Remington but the treads are little off. Then he said that all new guns will have the V3 Remington Choke and going forward all Escorts will have this choke.
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