Inertia vs. Gas

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Inertia vs. Gas

Postby bpsdiveraddict » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:08 pm

I know this topic has been talked about A LOT. I know they both have their place. Inertia's cleaner but may not handle some loads as well as gas. When people talk about gas guns getting dirty, like how many rounds until they start to fail? I'm looking at a Franchi Affinity and Beretta A300, strictly for a waterfowl gun, so no light target loads. They both fit well but I feel with shims they could fit perfect. Inertia fanboy's always bring up that it's cleaner, what does gas have on inertia besides lower recoil and can shoot lighter target loads.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby winchester1852 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:49 pm

Their is basically no difference, I don't know where you got the idea that gas can shoot lighter loads that is not true Depends on the gun. You will feel a bit more recoil with the recoil operated so if you are sensitive in that way gas would be good if not flip a coin.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby werp16 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:29 pm

I've never had an inertia gun but what I can say is that worrying about reliability and how clean your gun is isn't a big problem, at least for the sx3... I shoot hundreds if not a thousand rounds of heavy steel to light trap loads without cleaning any part of my gun besides the barrel and have not have a problem yet to date. I'm not sure how an Inertia gun do any better than that but then again I've never had one...
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby KRB » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:51 am

Both good guns. Shot both, really like the Affinity.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby z51 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:48 am

Gas guns have less felt recoil. Very noticeable with heavy loads. Generally gas guns handle a wider range of loads because of the metering ability of modern gas systems.

All my waterfowl guns are gas. I just wipe down the mag tube and piston between hunts. Three minute job. If you want a really easy to clean gas gun look at the Weatherby SA-08. You can get it in black or camo. I really like mine.

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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby mudpack » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:16 am

bpsdiveraddict wrote:When people talk about gas guns getting dirty, like how many rounds until they start to fail?

Clean your shotgun like it deserves and you won't have to worry about it; it will probably never fail.

bpsdiveraddict wrote:I'm looking at a Franchi Affinity and Beretta A300, strictly for a waterfowl gun, so no light target loads. Inertia fanboy's always bring up that it's cleaner, what does gas have on inertia besides lower recoil and can shoot lighter target loads.


Try not to overthink this. Both types offer excellent duck guns. Get the one you like best and you will not be disappointed.
Each gun has its dedicated fan clubs.....that should tell you plenty. :thumbsup: Join one. :lol3:
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby tsouthar91 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:49 am

My hunting partner used a A300 all season and never cleaned it. And it never failed on him. I prefer the inertia driven guns but watching his work made me want to get one of those. It was impressive.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby clampdaddy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:03 am

mudpack wrote: Try not to overthink this. Both types offer excellent duck guns. Get the one you like best and you will not be disappointed.
Each gun has its dedicated fan clubs.....that should tell you plenty. :thumbsup: Join one. :lol3:

Yup. I have both. Neither one is hard to clean. Neither one runs "dirty". They both work. Pick the gun that you like best and roll with it.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby 3200 man » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:16 am

But ! remember overbored barrels have been proven to shoot steel shot better ! :lol3: I think ?
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby mudpack » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:47 am

The folks selling overbored gun would certainly like us to think so.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby 3200 man » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:30 pm

With so many leading Duck gun manufactures offering back bored or over bored barreled guns ?
Maybe they are on to something while shooting steel shot ? My over bored guns shoot steel shot
better than my skinny barred ones do...... Even tho , I prefer shooting my Old Over bored guns more . :yes:
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby copterdoc » Wed May 28, 2014 4:34 am

I prefer gas-operated.

It doesn't kick nearly as hard.
It's easy to "tune" to match your load of choice, for the ideal balance between bolt speed (hammering the action) and reliability.

Gas-operated guns do "poop on themselves" because the gasses that operate the action contain carbon. However, the degree that being dirty affects the function of the gun depends entirely on how much the design lets it affect reliability.

Most of them will still shoot reliably, long after you should have been ashamed of yourself for neglecting your duties to clean and maintain your firearm.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby z51 » Wed May 28, 2014 5:38 am

All my SA' s are gas except my long recoil AL 48 Franchi 20, and I seldom shoot it. They all function great.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby 3200 man » Wed May 28, 2014 7:16 am

:huh: , Thinking that auto's (ether gas or Inertia) are for Pussies that what less recoil ? :yes:

Shooting a pump or break-open gun gives you all the velocity the shell has to offer and there is no blow-by to clean up .
We demand our ammo is more powerful as we try shooting beyond our ability , with heavy loads that recoil more than
our pussy-asses can handle so , the manufactures back-bore , over-bore , put pistons in guns and heavy springs to make
us feel like Bigger is Better . This is along with charging us more for a lighter gun made of plastic so our **** asses can
carry it , in the field :lol3: . We've lost the grace of pretty wood-sets and a well finished hunting gun as with the common
sense of what a shotgun is capable of ( as to its or our ability ) by marketing .

OH , what happen to the old days of guns lasting for 70 years or more ? :thumbsup: :lol3:
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Wed May 28, 2014 8:39 am

" OH , what happen to the old days of guns lasting for 70 years or more ?"

Gonna have to ask that again in 70 years!
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby 3200 man » Wed May 28, 2014 11:53 am

What are you saying Jim ? With your Mag 10 being a real Waterfowl gun , it's getting close to ( real ) longevity ,
And it's not made of plastic ! :yes:
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby Rick Hall » Wed May 28, 2014 4:34 pm

3200 man wrote:OH , what happen to the old days of guns lasting for 70 years or more ? :thumbsup: :lol3:


The guns that shot a lot of heavy loads shot apart, and the ones that didn't became treasured mementos of "the old days of guns lasting for 70 years or more"?
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby 3200 man » Wed May 28, 2014 10:24 pm

My old guns in the safe would beg to differ with you , as they are from the early 70's and older , some of my model 12's date

back to the early 30's and they are shooters so , let me know how your's are doing when they hit 6 or 8 years-old ? :yes:

And there is only one black-sheep in the bunch......it's camo'ed !
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby Rick Hall » Thu May 29, 2014 6:09 am

Both of my early HK import Benelli working guns are doing fine for having been shot virtually every open season day since the early '90s. Though I'm sure they'd be in nicer shape if they spent more time in storage and less in use. But my point remains that the old classics wore out, too, just not in a safe or attic.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby 3200 man » Thu May 29, 2014 7:33 am

That makes Sense ! As I pull out a Mod 12 trap that I've had for 50 plus years that I bought used from a Old time
trap shooter , which he purchased new in the early 40's and shot it weekly until , I got it . All I'm saying is , when a
gun has somewhere between 250,000 and 300,000 rounds through it and still looks and shoots like new , I will be
impressed ! And it doesn't go Click , when you pull the trigger , ether ! :yes: I shouldn't of said that as I did own one
and it did kill birds just as dead as my Mod 12's but , I think mine are prettier in wood , than plastic ! :lol3:
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby Rick Hall » Thu May 29, 2014 8:59 am

3200 man wrote:All I'm saying is , when a gun has somewhere between 250,000 and 300,000 rounds through it and still looks and shoots like new , I will be impressed !


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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby copterdoc » Thu May 29, 2014 9:53 am

I doubt that any of the still functioning 70 year old shotguns can come close to matching the round counts of the Beretta 39* series guns that dominate the clays courses today.

And BTW, they are gas-operated.
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby R. Chapman » Thu May 29, 2014 10:09 am

Here's the way I look at it. If all you ever shoot is lead in a shot of shot size 1-2 and smaller, that barrel will never wear out. Steel is a different story.


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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby 3200 man » Thu May 29, 2014 4:27 pm

No not a Dream , it's a fact !

I have ( 2 ) 5 gal buckets full of spent primers and all of them were shot out of my Mod 12 trap !
and my 3 early 60's 870's 3" are not far behind . Compared to a skinny barreled HK , they shoot more like a back-bored gun
with pretty wood ! :yes:

You gas or inertia fellas better start shooting more to catch-up to , quality in a gun .. LMAO !
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Re: Inertia vs. Gas

Postby KRB » Thu May 29, 2014 5:36 pm

3200 man wrote:No not a Dream , it's a fact !

I have ( 2 ) 5 gal buckets full of spent primers and all of them were shot out of my Mod 12 trap !
and my 3 early 60's 870's 3" are not far behind . Compared to a skinny barreled HK , they shoot more like a back-bored gun
with pretty wood ! :yes:

You gas or inertia fellas better start shooting more to catch-up to , quality in a gun .. LMAO !

Your drinkin your breakfast again aren't you. :fingerpt:
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