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Autos don't kick less because they are wasting available pressure and gasses.3200 man wrote:X51
Yep , When you have pumped a shotgun for 50 years it's not a problem and when it's a good shotgun , they last forever !
Even though , I have modified some to shoot steel better , than most autos , with using all the pressure the shell has to
Offer ! More Efficient ? Yep
To close the bolt for the next loud bang.3200 man wrote: So why have a stock spring , then ?
A lower what?3200 man wrote:....So , why does my Maxus with a sealed piston have a lower SD than when it had a spring ?
Gas-guns are better at reducing recoil than either other option. Not just felt recoil, but actual real life recoil.3200 man wrote:...Is a gas gun better than a spring gun or is a OLD Standard pump or break-open better than both of them ?
Having a well developed flinch and detached retinas, certainly has a negative effect on your ability to kill ducks.3200 man wrote:...AS all 3 , kill Ducks just fine if you know how to shoot !
3200 man wrote:I'm sure the OP's thankful for all this info and making a wise decision ! ref: add weight
If longevity is what he''s looking for , well , what can I say .
I have found that with a 28" barrel on my 3.5" Silver, the piston might be opening, but it doesn't affect how the gun operates unless a heavier than stock recoil spring is installed. And even then, it doesn't make much difference changing from a Mag (lightest spring tension) piston to a sealed piston. It'll cycle everything with a 28" barrel, and spit 3.5" empties over 15 feet away.clampdaddy wrote:Ran a sealed piston in the Maxus I had and I still run one in my Silver. Without the use of high speed photography it would be hard to know for sure, but when I talked to Jeff he made it sound like he didn't think that the pistons actually open until the operating sleeve slams into the receiver and the piston can't travel any further. I don't know when the piston actually opens and I won't pretend to, but I do know that neither of my guns showed any accelerated wear after running the sealed pistons. My Maxus did not like the stainless sure cycle system though as one sping was to heavy and caused jams, the other one being a bit too lite and did show a bit of receiver hammering.
Shoot more than "some".3200 man wrote:I have used some pretty stout 3" handloads in the AM...........