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picking a pump for new duck hunter

Postby sidecarr » Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:44 pm

I hunt upland game ,but my shorthair is at the retirement age,and ive been wanting to go duck hunting for awhile ,thought this is the year to try I have a remington 870 magnum 12 ga , a browning gold 20 ga ,and a browning A500 gas operated 12 ga , I was thinking of adding another pump for ducks , what do you think about a winchester 1300 , or should I go with the remington 870 magnum , was looking at the browning BPS but not sure about the bottom eject
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Postby SteveInTN » Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:22 pm

The 870 is the consument duck hunting gun. You cannot go wrong taking that pole into the field. The BPS is an awesome pump too, and the bottom eject is actually a feature in my mind. There is much to be said for not shucking a shell into your blind partners ear or out onto the exterior of the blind! It also makes it easier to pocket your brass so that you don't add too much 'twinkle' to your decoy spread. For the record I own an 870 Super-Mag, a BPS 12, and BPS 10. I like the ambidextrious safety on the BPS too, since I'm left-eye dominant and swear I'm going to start shooting left handed some day! I'm definately a pump guy.

If your looking for an excuse to buy another gun, the BPS is great if it fits you. If not, you've got all you need already.
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Postby NESoDak » Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:44 am

I would like to second everything that SteveInTN said. The 870 is not to be beaten as a waterfowling gun. Similarly, your Browning Gold would serve very well hunting ducks over decoys, especially if you decide to use one of the latest heavier than steel shot options. I have and enjoy the BPS in large part because it fits my long arms better than other guns. I think adding another gun in your position would be unneccessary, but one more never hurt.
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Postby birdgunner04 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:24 pm

buy what fits or dont waste your money. you dont need a 3.5 for ducks. If it dont fit it wont hit.
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Postby Cashman » Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:10 pm

I really like my Winchester 1300. 3" shells are all you need for ducks. Plus it is pretty cheap to buy. I use it as an all around gun, but works well for everything. I think Winchester makes the most reliabal guns of all.
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Postby sidecarr » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:14 pm

Thanks for the advise, Ill have to take a look at the bps , I have long arms to so maybe it will fit . the stock on my 870 seems short to me , the A500g fits great but its to nice a gun to take to a duck blind, and IM not sure how reliable the semi auto would be in the duck blind
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Postby ks_waterfowler » Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:16 pm

I started hunting with an 870. Best pump gun on the market. I know you don't have this on your choices, but have you looked into a Benelli Nova. My little brother shoots one and loves it.
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Postby birdgunner04 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:03 pm

I have a nova and wouldnt recomend it to my worst enemy ! (no matter how well it fits)
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Postby macdaddy » Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:25 am

I concur w/ SteveinTn - try the BPS. The price & the bottom eject were what got me to buy. Mine's a 10ga; great for everything.
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Postby Dogman » Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:25 pm

I've had my BPS for 12 years and it performs great,the bottom ejector is great :thumbsup: .Mines a ten gauge also and gets used on a variety of hunts
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Postby tstrong » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:11 pm

Hows the recoil on the BPS. I have an A 5 - 3" Browning, but looking forward to hunting more geese. What about the cold weather problem with auto's? 10 gauge is a must but, BPS or Mossberg 935?
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Postby birdgunner04 » Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:14 am

the bps is a pump
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Postby tstrong » Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:06 pm

My error. What is the kick like from the BPS as compared to an auto. The A 5 has a pretty good kick.
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Postby birdgunner04 » Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:44 am

I have shot both a 12 and a 10 with steel they both pack a good wallop. Not really anymore than any of the other 3.5in 12's though.buy what fits you best . Really you wont be really happy with an ill fitting gun. the bottom eject is nice for your partners in a blind but seem a little slower to load in a hurry.Browning quallity can't be beat.
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Postby berettaman » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:08 am

I have the 10ga BPS and a 12 ga BPS and I would say that the punch is about the same. The 10ga weighs a bunch more so it really counters the recoil. I would be willing to sell the BPS 12 ga if anyone is intersted. It is in shadowgrass and 3 inch. I just don't use it as I have 9 other shotguns.
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Postby tstrong » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:53 am

If you had to choose, 10 gauge BPS or 10 gauge auto? With all the mudd, muck and cold weather I'm leaning more towards the BPS.
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Postby Ducksbeus » Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:26 pm

I just bought a Nova, I only had one chance to use it, on a dove hunt, so far. I took it to the range and patterned it before I took to the feild, best thing I ever did. #8 Improved cylender barely left any holes at 30 yards, I screwed in the full choke and....boooya! I patterned some #2 Kent fast steel with modified...looked downright deadly. Last I patterned some Winchester #3 3.5"....booya, but, talk about kick....DANG! Now for the good stuff...I noticed that the patterns were a little low, and, right, so, I kept this in mind when I went dove shootin', the first dove I shot at I killed first shot, and, he was out thar. The second dove came by, 1 shot and another dead dove. I was planning on using my Beretta, but, after those results I used it all day. Now i'm not goin' to say it's the best gun in the world, but, for $299 + tax....I'm impressed. Can't wait to bust a fathead with some #2 Faststeel. Y'all have a nice day! :yes:
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Postby birdgunner04 » Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:29 am

Benelli makes a recoil reducer that screws on under the butt pad.I'm glad your gun worked mine was a POS from day one I couldn't give it away. I tried
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Postby Spiraleyes » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:00 pm

I have a BPS 12 ga. Had it for 14 years now. Love the bottom eject, like mentioned many times before. It's also a perfect gun for lefties!
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Postby texandckhntr » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:30 pm

So can anyone tell me is the Nova a good buy I own 3 870's and a mossberg5500 looking to move up to a 3.5
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Postby donell67 » Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:16 pm

i have 2 novas now and like them.only bummer is now they have advantage wetlands models. and i have the other camo models.i had troubles with my brownings. the bps 12,after 3 years of using it. it would hardly pump a shell into the chamber.took it to the gun smith they said the pump slide was so wore down there was nothing they could do.the stock kept coming off.even with locktite on the screw.i still have my pump 870 wingmaster that i got used when i was 12 and shot for about 14 years and it still works.the bps 10 i had i didnt have much trouble with but didnt get shot much.
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Postby birdgunner04 » Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:01 am

Not in my opinion (mine is a p.o.s.) buy an 835. Not the glamor gun but indestructable!
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Postby ND_Duckslayer » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:07 am

Can't go wrong with an 870! I've been using mine for over six years now and I wouldn't have it any other way. I had to modify the stock, though, and buy a youth model because the one it comes with is a tad too long for my short arms. Been hitting a lot better now that I fixed that! :thumbsup:
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Postby puddlerjumper » Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:18 pm

870 express supermagnum, get one in a camo finish if you can, the finish on the regular express(matte) isnt all that great, ive seen better, not that its horrible, but its not the most durable
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Postby ND_Duckslayer » Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:22 pm

Yeah, I was thinking about buying a camo finish 870 Express Super Mag, but I didn't have the extra 150 bucks to spend. I bought the plain matte finish and its held up alright...I guess it just depends on how well you take care of it!
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