Rem 1700 fps loads

[Ned S]

Just talked to Phil Bourjaily gun editor for Field and Stream and he has info which he is sending me on Rems new 1700 fps loads called Turbo jet in 1 1/8, 1 1/4, and 1 3/8 oz loads. The shotcup causes a delay in full detonation of the powder giving the ejecta more boost with no spike. Also the petals open up later also. I will publish more when I get the info. He is giving it to my oldest Son who will mail it to me. This sounds like what we have been waiting for. Ned S the young 80 yr old.

[Sagebrush]

The WAD, delays the powder burn...............

This I gota see.

Very interresting.

[Toasty]

They're making a 1 3/8oz 3 1/2" load and a1 1/4oz 3" load and a 1 1/8oz 2 3/4" load that is going to go 1700 fps. I hope it is true, but I don't believe it. It would have to be a new powder and/or a pretty revolutionary wad. If it is true and components are available, the reloaders will be hitting 2000 fps with a 1oz load very easily. I have a feeling it is not going to end up with the numbers suggested though.

[Leadhead]

I figured it would be a Krypton Turbo Special or Super Sonic something or another that only they would have access to.

[Brodie James]

The WAD, delays the powder burn...............

This I gota see.

Very interresting.

Yeah, two stage rocket booster. I think I'll just go scout some ducks. To hell with this!

[Ned S]

The WAD, delays the powder burn...............

This I gota see.

Very interresting.

Phil says a soda straw type cyl goes down over the primer which kicks the ejecta out of the chamber or partially out befor the main charge starts to burn eliminating the normal spike, thus more push on the ejecta. I may be wrong. I'll just have to wait until I get the printed info. Ned S

[Ned S]

It will be interesting how the Italian skinny bores, .723, handle the the new 1700 fps Rem fodder. Also the 935 with its .775 bore. Ned S

[ALLDRAKES]

It will be interesting how the Italian skinny bores, .723, handle the the new 1700 fps Rem fodder. Also the 935 with its .775 bore. Ned S

Hopefully for the 935 guys they dont use a wad like many/most of the shells out there they actually shoot considerably slower out of the 935 due to the excessive blow by than the Italians........

[Jarbo03]

My FABARM auto and Tristar 3.5" o/u love my 1700+fps loads

[vital_kill]

It will be interesting how the Italian skinny bores, .723, handle the the new 1700 fps Rem fodder. Also the 935 with its .775 bore. Ned S

The Benelli's will put out a big killer fart and the Mossy will give a silenty but deadly fart.

[Ned S]

It will be interesting how the Italian skinny bores, .723, handle the the new 1700 fps Rem fodder. Also the 935 with its .775 bore. Ned S

Hopefully for the 935 guys they dont use a wad like many/most of the shells out there they actually shoot considerably slower out of the 935 due to the excessive blow by than the Italians........

The only shotcup that gives me blow by in my 935 is the RSI. I shoot the old NTC, Bashieri & Bellagri, 65 Velarco and Guiliania and they work just fine getting velocities from 1700 to over 1900 fps. The Helarco Vp65 is a fantastic shotcup no blowby remaining white with no blow by and no pin holes. I use this cup on my 1900fps + load. I also use the VP53 Helarco in shooting my 7/8 oz 4756 load at 1600 fps. Ned S

[skb20]

1700 fps, eh?? Awesome..... simply AWESOME!! Just exactly what we need -- more recoil and more patterning problems. For trifling improvemant in penetration. Is anyone actually thinking about this situation at all? Or does it all really more-or-less boil down to "my pellet is going faster than your pellet"???

[Ned S]

I'm shooting 1700 to 1900+ reloads and holding them together. Why couldn't you. Maybe a skinny barrel. Ned S

[Leadhead]

1700 fps, eh?? Awesome..... simply AWESOME!! Just exactly what we need -- more recoil and more patterning problems. For trifling improvemant in penetration. Is anyone actually thinking about this situation at all? Or does it all really more-or-less boil down to "my pellet is going faster than your pellet"???

It always comes down to "my pellet is faster than yours". Unlike lead, speed is the secret with steel. Faster the better. The ammo
companies will slowly but surely keep improving their speed to get the edge on their competition. How fast is too fast?? I dunno, but we haven't reached it yet.

[goosenoose]

1 3/8 oz @ 1700 fps ? Man that is going to kick like a sledge hammer bring the aspirin along for the headache!!!!!!

[lunatic]

1 3/8 oz @ 1700 fps ? Man that is going to kick like a sledge hammer bring the aspirin along for the headache!!!!!!

Also your cheek bone may become bruised if your gun do not fit you

[Ned S]

Yep! only for young men, not old farts. Ned S the young 80 yr old.

[lunatic]

Exactly Ned 80 years young. Have you shot or will shot these fast loads out of a, lets say a Citori, or a Orion? I am reluctant to use loads this fast out of my doubles.

[Ned S]

The pressures on my fast loads are a helluva lot less than bigger slow loads. I shoot the speeders in my cheap Stoeger Condor O/U as well as my 1100's, 11-87 and Mossy 935. Ned S

[vital_kill]

The pressures on my fast loads are a helluva lot less than bigger slow loads. I shoot the speeders in my cheap Stoeger Condor O/U as well as my 1100's, 11-87 and Mossy 935. Ned S

I wanna see you shoot my uncle's 700 nitro

[william costa]

kents been gettn 1625 out of there 1 1/4 loads.but i like 1 3/8 loads myself.at 1550.

[skb20]

1 3/8 oz @ 1700 fps ? Man that is going to kick like a sledge hammer bring the aspirin along for the headache!!!!!!

Yup, something in the order of 80 ft lbs of recoil -- getting along toward .458 Win or .460 Weatherby levels. Roughly 4 times the level at which the average shooter starts to develop flinching problems. This will help your shooting precision immensely, of course.

[Ned S]

Actual kick and calculated are two different values depending on the mechanism. Gas operated tame it quite a bit. I shoot 1 3/8 BB's at 1640 fps in my M0ssy 935 without a recoil problem and I am old and brittle.