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choke ?

Postby joekool » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:47 pm

this may end up being a stupid ? to sum but im going to ask it anyway


i shoot mod choke out of my rem 870

i patternd the gun (30 yards) and it dnt have any holes in the pattern and the choke is factory

now i think ima bad shot i think i suck at shooting

my ? is if i changed to another mod choke from another company would that make a diffrenece or is it all blamed on the shooter??
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Re: choke ?

Postby Brodie James » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:19 pm

NO! It would not make a difference. Three things will help you hit better practice, practice, practice.

Another thing that will help is go to your IC choke. When you do that you may want to go to slightly smaller shot.

My favorite combo in my Remington is Lite Mod choke (I use a hastings flush choke) with 12 ga. 3" 1 1/8 oz. #3's at 1550 (Kent). In your case I would use the IC choke.
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Re: choke ?

Postby Ned S » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:42 pm

I totally agree with Brodie, I shoot mostly IC chokes, sometimes a Light Mod. These chokes with 3's or 4's will kill to 40 yds. Sat I will be passing shooting Sandhill and I will be using a 28'' Hastings barrel/full choke with hard lead 2's with filler which will kill to 80 yds. Ned S the young 80 yr old.
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Re: choke ?

Postby magnum » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:58 pm

I guess the question you might ask yourself is. How far am I going to be shooting on average and what kind of birds am I shooting at. For example if I am not shooting past 40 yrds and am shooting small puddle ducks,(teal, ringnecks, goldeneye, woodys, etc,) I would use 2.75 in #4s or #6s or 3in #4s and I could use a I,C or Mod choke or if I felt I was well practiced a full choke and head shoot. If I was hunting Mallard size ducks at the same distance I would mostly use 3in #4s with the same chokes. But if most my shots were begining at 40yrds I would use a full or whatever gave me the tightest pattern with 3in #4s or #2s and 3.5in #2s or #1s and I would load my shotgun with one 3in #4 in the chamber and two 3.5in #2s or #1s in the magazine. Anyway that what I would do for what its worth. And practice all you can. :thumbsup:
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Re: choke ?

Postby sdduckman » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:28 am

Practice, pointing and shooting. If you have a local skeet, trap, or sporting clays club, you can usually find someone who will be glad to help you with your shooting.
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Re: choke ?

Postby joekool » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:25 am

well to magnum i shoot everything ive got puddle ducks and ive got big ducks

and i shoot 3" 2's and i shoot 3" 4's out of the mod and i sighted it in at 30 yards wich seems gud cuz i went hunting the next day and they all were abt thirty yards maybe closer

i tried the ic choke and i didnt like it the pattern was 2 spread out for 30 yards i guz thats maybe wat i want but idk it seemd like i might not be able to go any farther than 30 yards without loosing the tightness of the patern
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Re: choke ?

Postby greyson1 » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:45 am

You should also keep in mind what the late hall of fame trapshooter Frank Little always preached " A trapshooter should never pattern his gun. By doing so and knowing the size & character of the guns pattern causes most shooters to consciously compensate, which places focus somewhere other than where it should be........ on the leading edge of the flying target.
Master shooting instructor Steve Schultz also says" Let your mind compensate & react instinctively. Cluttering the brain with ideas is the major reason for missing."

So now that you know that it isn't the gun, load or the pattern. It's just a matter of practice.
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Re: choke ?

Postby magnum » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:13 am

Buddy if they are 30yrds or closer and you are using 3in #2s you should be turning them into mincemeat. With the Mod choke and a solid hit at 20yrds a mallard would be nearly ineateble. You might check where your gun hits. For you personally. Close your eyes and shoulder your gun like you would when you shoot. Then open your eyes and see where your eye lines up. Then shoot somthing to see where your pattern hits. You may find that your gun shoots high or low for you. If this is the case then you may have to adjust the drop in your stock. Or just get used to where you have to hold your head to get your gun to hit where it should. Hopfully this will help.
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Re: choke ?

Postby joekool » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:44 am

haha yea i should be turning them into mincmeat but if i cant hit them then lol they arnt getting turnd into any meat lol

and i no i shouold practice but i have been practicing for 12 years now lol and i was better back in the day when i was younger when i would have my 20 guage pump emptyed in 2 seconds faster than my dads auto lol
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Re: choke ?

Postby goosetalker18 » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:39 pm

Ned S wrote:I totally agree with Brodie, I shoot mostly IC chokes, sometimes a Light Mod. These chokes with 3's or 4's will kill to 40 yds. Sat I will be passing shooting Sandhill and I will be using a 28'' Hastings barrel/full choke with hard lead 2's with filler which will kill to 80 yds. Ned S the young 80 yr old.



80 yards?? What a shot.
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Re: choke ?

Postby Leadhead » Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:02 pm

If you are not hitting any birds, you are probably stopping your gun and shooting behind the birds. Have someone stand behind you and watch as you shoot at some clays. You maybe need to practice the sustained lead method or the swing from behind method to get the gun infront of the birds. Also, you may want to call your local skeet club and see if you can get a couple of lessons to help strighten you out. Probably just a mind thing.
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Re: choke ?

Postby joekool » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:23 am

i think when i actully shoot the gun when i pull the trigger i pull in different directions and i swing with the birds its just always in front behind above the day i went hunting i did it twice the ducks juked the shots out lol
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Re: choke ?

Postby lunatic » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:14 pm

Hey Joekool, is there a possibility that you could have anticipated the shot and flinched? The shotgun you patterned, does it fit you?

These two things are common when a shot is missed especially at 30 yards.
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Re: choke ?

Postby Ned S » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:22 pm

A skeet/trap shooting friend watching you shoot can diagnose your problem especially if he can see the shot flight path. I have a friend like that. Ned S
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Re: choke ?

Postby Leadhead » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:20 pm

joekool wrote:i think when i actully shoot the gun when i pull the trigger i pull in different directions and i swing with the birds its just always in front behind above the day i went hunting i did it twice the ducks juked the shots out lol



not a clue what you just said but it sounds mighty serious to me....good luck.
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Re: choke ?

Postby Brodie James » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:30 pm

I think he said he missed a lot.
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Re: choke ?

Postby joekool » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:45 pm

i said when i pull the trigger i pull the gun like its a tight trigger and i mover when i pull the trigger maybe i do flintch i have to work on it and

YES I DO MISS ALOT LOL
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Re: choke ?

Postby boxlock » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:57 pm

on the subject of choke, us brits are led to believe you cannot shoot anything tighter than half (mod) when using steel, where can i get something tighter for my berretta teknys, and what are my options
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Re: choke ?

Postby greyson1 » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:08 pm

boxlock wrote:on the subject of choke, us brits are led to believe you cannot shoot anything tighter than half (mod) when using steel, where can i get something tighter for my berretta teknys, and what are my options


First off :welcome:
The bigger the shot size the less constriction is needed for a tighter patterns with steel & a Mod. is about as tight as most really need for 50 yrds or less. BB or smaller can be safely shot from a ext. steel rated full choke, BBB's & bigger should not be shot out of anything tighter than a Imp Mod.
Either way, there are lots of aftermarket steel rated choke choices here in the states for you to choose from. Carlson's, Briley,Trulock, Hastings, Kick's, Comp-n-choke, SRM Terror, Wad Wizard, Pattern Master, Dead Ringer, Drake Killer, Pure Gold, Rhino, Roberts-Gun-Works, AnglePort, Wright's,Wilson Precision, ect...................
Contact Atwoodflash or Carlson's Chokes here on this site. Your membership here gets you a discount & they're about the best bang for the buck, IMO :beer:
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