Felix the cat wrote:I am going to load a 2-3/4 12ga shell with 1-1/4oz of steel wih a roll crimp, anyone have data for this load. I have been loading shells for a loooong time and allready load 1-1/8oz at 1470 fps and am looking for somthing different, and I shoot a 10ga so am not interested in longer 3'' or 3-1/2'' 12ga,. The load I am going to build is a 2-3/4 Fiocchi hull, Fiocchi 616 primer, 32gr Blue Dot, LBC 50 wad with 2 slits, 1-1/4 oz # 1 steel shot, over shot wad and a roll crimp. this load is for the occasional goose while I am duck hunting, if I am pursuing geese on purpose and I mean real geese ( Honkers ) not stupid snows I use 2 oz of #2 hevi shot in 10ga, reloads of course. I live on fir island, Skagit county, WA so don't give me any grief about snows I kill plenty but prefer to hunt ducks.
Felix the cat wrote:Thanks for the advice on my project, I should have mentioned that I am going to use new hulls full length and Blue dot powder because it is not as bulky as Steel. I am will start at 29 grains and work up to the velocity I want any thing over 1300 will be fine I used 32 gr as a max because it fit with enough room to roll crimp. My biggest issue is getting hard data on roll crimping.
Felix the cat wrote:I really appreciate everyones advice, exacly what I was looking for. The point of this project is that I shoot a 2-3/'4' 1200 beretta with a fixed " modified " choke , back in the olden days of lead I SHOT 1-1/2 oz of 5% antimony lead reloads in a Win AA case that would throw 100% patterns at 40 yds, I still have some of these loads and can prove it on demand, unfortunatly Win doesnt make 571 any more so I am going to work on a substitute but it's not that important to me. Just want to get as close to that performace as I can get with steel and factory loads don't cut it.
pinks wrote:I just loaded 1 1/4 1s in a 2 3/4 " Cheddite,with B&P 3" wad,which I had to cut down,but I only have Steel powder and used 35.5 grains.Stacks of space in there.
Well I really must apologise.
I loaded some more of that load but with the LBC 3" wad and it is very tight.It will just work with 35 grains lot 16 steel powder and a B&P 3" wad.
Am I a man or a Muppet? Me thinks a Muppet,I somehow did not put enough shot in the first one I loaded!
BT Justice wrote:Felix the cat wrote:Thanks for the advice on my project, I should have mentioned that I am going to use new hulls full length and Blue dot powder because it is not as bulky as Steel. I am will start at 29 grains and work up to the velocity I want any thing over 1300 will be fine I used 32 gr as a max because it fit with enough room to roll crimp. My biggest issue is getting hard data on roll crimping.
You would be able to fit the load a bit better in the hull if you used a ball type powder vs a flake powder. You can fit the 3" RSI wad in a 2 3/4" Gold medal hull if you use Winchester 540/HS-6, Winchester 571/HS-7 or Longshot. Of the three the best choice would have been W571/HS-7 however that's not currently in production, Longshot would be a good choice but it's just to touchy to experiment with if you don't have pressure test equipment. I made a load up several years ago with Longshot and the 3" wad in the Gold Medal hull for 1 1/4 oz of shot...it worked well but I saw no advantage to it over a 3" hull so I don't know if I kept any notes on it or not. Have to look around in some boxes and see if I kept anything on it.
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