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Hevi-Steel pellet count

Postby hamernhonkers » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:07 pm

Well I just ordered a case of hevi-steel from cabelas. I thought I would give them a try on geese this fall. I did call and talk to a specialist first, to make sure the inventory was the new generation of shot.

The only problem I am having is finding a link to any articles or information for a pellet per oz chart on hevi steel.

If anybody has a link they know of I would really appreciate if I could get it from you.

Thanks. :smile:
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Postby Sagebrush » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:08 pm

If you are in a hurry, cut one open.
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Postby ohsobad_hunter » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:03 pm

Sagebrush wrote:If you are in a hurry, cut one open.

There goes 5 bucks!! ROFL :toofunny:
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Postby Citori12 » Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:20 pm

As long as you got the time and money??????? Hevi is denser than lead..problem with hevi is the velocity...its slow and the hevi shot does not deform any more than steel... therefore, if you choose to shoot hevi shot...you gotta remember that there is about 30% weight difference if your really good with math you can decifer 1 3/8oz of lead into 1oz of steel into roughly 1 1/2oz minus of hevi!!!!!!!!!! same pellet count..just remember that your comparing apples to oranges!!!!!!!!!
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Postby thaner » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:35 pm

Hevi-steel and Hevi shot are not the same thing. I think hevi-steel is about equal to tungsten iron if I remember correctly. I have numbers for TI, TM, hevi, lead, and steel. I though I had something on the hevi-steel, but I can't find it right off. Citori has a good point; If you can find some data that tells you how it compares to lead you can probably get close by calculation.
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Postby hamernhonkers » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:20 am

I have found the density of the different materials.
Steel 7.86
hevi steel 9.0
bismuth 9.6
tungston materix 10.2
lead mix 10.4-10.8
pure lead 11
hevi shot 12
hevi 13 13
tss 17

What my problem is I suck at math. I found the count on bismuth once, but I can't remember where I found it. It is the closest to Hevi-Steel.

My case of shells did come last night. I am going to do it the hard way when I get home tonight and open one up. Then I'll let you how may pellets are in the 3" load of hevi-steel b shot. The load is 1 1/8 oz.
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Postby hamernhonkers » Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:15 am

Well cut one open. There were 86 pellets. As far as the pellets themselves they are ugly. I think these look worse then Winchesters expert steel fodder. Now I am going to take them to the farm and put them on the paper and see what kind of patterns I get.
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Postby thaner » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:10 pm

Let us know on the pattern. I found where it is listed as 20 % heavier than steel. Hevi is ugly and all kinds of odd and patterns better than anything I have ever used so who knows.
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Postby Sagebrush » Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:21 am

Bismith pellet count 1oz
7.5@ 399 6@ 256 5@ 197 4@ 155

1 3/8OZ bb@80 2@ 139 4@ 213

HEAVY - SHOT 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz loads
9@ 671 8@ 471 7.5@ 400 6@ 258 5@ 198
4@ 156 3@125 2@ 101 1@ 83
You don't need pellets bigger than # 1's which will pierce
human skin at 230 yards ! Need I say more ?

Hope this helps..............

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Postby hamernhonkers » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:00 pm

thanner

I ordered two new chokes from briley for my stoger on Monday. As soon as they get here I plan on taking it out and hitting the patterning board. I will let know the results.

sage

Thanks for the info. If this stuff patterns well that table will help me decide on a shot size to try for a duck load.

As for the way this stuff looks. It is far from round and little globs stuck to some of the pellets. It is truly ugly.

I did find a web page with a good article on hevi-steel.

http://www.gundogsonline.com/Article/He ... -Page1.htm

http://www.gundogsonline.com/Article/he ... -Page1.htm
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Postby thaner » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:38 pm

That second article is one I read a while back. The hevi steel is not as dense a hevi shot, but the process is the same. Hevi shot looks just like what you are describing. I would think they could pattern about the same. Hevi shot pattern very good. Let us know how the hevi steel does. I have been thinking about getting a couple boxes to try out some time.
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Postby CrackerJackShot » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:13 pm

well if its properties are close to tungsten-iron then you need to be careful. It is very hard and will be hard on chokes. Tungsten-matrix on the other hand is nice and soft..... kinda like me :laughing:
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Postby Sagebrush » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:56 pm

H....Honkers;

3" steel 1 1/8 oz B 1450 fps...... 60 yd 621fps energy 4.39

3" Hv steel 1 1/8oz B 1350 fps ...60 yd 681 fps energy 6.95

I don't think you will have any problems dropping your geese !!

You might want to shoot one load in a 30mph wind to check out the
total drift of your pattern; if you are a die-hard hunter ! Should be
close to 40" or more. ( that is a full pattern ! ) :eek:

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Postby hamernhonkers » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:27 am

You might want to shoot one load in a 30mph wind to check out the



Sage you haven't spent much time in southern utah.

Its more like 60 mph :toofunny:
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Postby Sagebrush » Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:50 pm

60 mph winds !

Is Richfield or Greenrich near Fish lake far enough south?

St George is almost in Mexico......

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Postby hamernhonkers » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:40 pm

Right in-between. Cedar
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