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10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby feetdowngunsup88 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:09 am

Hey guys, I'm looking to really Bring out the full long range potential of my bps 10. My stock modified tube actually throws really even nice patterns but dies at 45 yards. I'm looking to extend my range with large shot using bb BBB And T for long range geese. Any suggestions for a really long range choke I can shoot these big sizes through? I have been looking at patternmasters because they don't constrict. But I'm wondering what you guys use effectively? Pics of your patterns along with your load and choke would be great if it's not one of your dark secrets! Thanks guys happy shooting :beer:
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby Jon Bergren » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:14 am

For BB's a Terror choke and for BBB and T a cyl or IC choke recommended by Jeff Hajjar maker of the Terror chokes. Ned S
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby Rob MacK » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:26 am

Well I use a .720 Terror unfortunately no longer made from what others have said on here. My second choice is the Briely Light Full. It does very well with T using the Aliant 1 5/8oz load data. No signs of any issues with shot size and constriction so far at least. In my BPS for long range I had no luck with factory chokes.

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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby bubba682 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:47 am

I went with a briley im this year the last couple i was using a mod briley unfortunatley there no terror .720 for a gold.
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby gooseman1 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:31 am

The Terror 705 is still available! for the Gold-That would be my choice!!
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby rainingmallards » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:10 pm

10 gauge for a sore shoulder and a ton of pellets...LOL
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:32 pm

In all the years that I have shot 10ga guns, I have never had one hurt my shoulder. I cannot say that about various 12ga guns I have shot. I continue to be amaized at the missconception that the 10ga is a recoil heavy brute.

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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby bubba682 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:43 pm

10gaOkie wrote:In all the years that I have shot 10ga guns, I have never had one hurt my shoulder. I cannot say that about various 12ga guns I have shot. I continue to be amaized at the missconception that the 10ga is a recoil hea
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby goosepit2007 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:59 pm

i agree with the 10 gauge there is big myth that they kick worse than 12 gauges...far from the truth...i have double bbl that i pull both triggers at same time and it still does not kick as bad as some 12 gauges with 31/2 inch loads even in semi auto's. the extra weight makes big difference for 10 gauges.
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby grnhd » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:02 pm

rainingmallards wrote:10 gauge for a sore shoulder and a ton of pellets...LOL


Have you ever shot a Gold 10?

OP...you're probably going to have to go with a Briley LF since they don't make the Terror 720. If you can still get a Terror 735 that would be my choice over the Briley.
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby DoubleDutchChuck » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:23 pm

grnhd wrote:
OP...you're probably going to have to go with a Briley LF since they don't make the Terror 720. If you can still get a Terror 735 that would be my choice over the Briley.


I haven't shot a .735 in any brand, but have my doubts about it/them. I've patterned loads with my full .740 and they aren't even close to the patterns I get with the .745 choke. The patterns shot with the .740 had less pellet density and were very blotchy, with a lot of holes. Don't think I could be convinced to change my .745 choke for any other size.
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:36 pm

Both of my Gold 10s have a Briley LF .745 screwed in them. I have stuck with them for quite a while and dont intend to change anytime soon. No doubt the .720 Terror is a good choke as well as many swear by it. But it is no longer available for the Browning 10. Double Dutch Chuck turned me onto this choke a long time ago when he was using this choke in his SP10, I have not found another choke to replace it as I have tried others. Obviously Chuck still likes it since he is using it now in his new Gold 10.

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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby grnhd » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:57 pm

DoubleDutchChuck wrote:
grnhd wrote:
OP...you're probably going to have to go with a Briley LF since they don't make the Terror 720. If you can still get a Terror 735 that would be my choice over the Briley.


I haven't shot a .735 in any brand, but have my doubts about it/them. I've patterned loads with my full .740 and they aren't even close to the patterns I get with the .745 choke. The patterns shot with the .740 had less pellet density and were very blotchy, with a lot of holes. Don't think I could be convinced to change my .745 choke for any other size.


It never ceases to amaze me that guys with the same brand of gun have such huge difference of opinions on what choke works in their guns. Me and you have even tested the exact same loads. I've never shot a 745 but since my 720 is better than my 735 I cant imagine that the 745 would be better than either the 735 or 720. Both of my Gold 10's pattern better with the 720 than the 735.
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby TEN GAUGE BBB » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:10 pm

rainingmallards wrote:10 gauge for a sore shoulder
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:23 pm

I dont know why but when I tested the .720 Terror at a different time than I tested the .745 Briley, both with the same load and distance. They patterned very close to the same size pattern. Neither one shot tighter than the other. I just felt that the Briley patterned a tad more even with that one load I tested which was my main 10ga load recipe with #1s. Testing them both at 40 and 50 yards, there was not a great deal of diff. Since I already had the Briley, I couldnt see ordering the Terror choke that performed about the same.

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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby BT Justice » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:26 am

It's kind of a mute point anyway about the Terror Tubes, since there are no more .720 Terrors to be had other choices have to be made. My big question is will the Briley tubes hold together very fast loads like the Terror .720 will. So far the .720 Terror will keep patterns together up to 1700 fps for me which is about as fast as I want to go with 10 ga loads.
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby 10gaOkie » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:21 am

The fastest load I have tested was 1700fps and it was the modified Alliant recipe by Chuck. 1 1/4oz in a Rem hull. This load using the Briley 745 gave 98% patterns at 40 yards with BBBs. When I tested it, I subbed a RSI wad. I believe Chuck used the PR wad.

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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby goose_gunner » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:58 pm

[quote="goosepit2007"]i agree with the 10 gauge there is big myth that they kick worse than 12 gauges...far from the truth...i have double bbl that i pull both triggers at same time and it still does not kick as bad as some 12 gauges with 31/2 inch loads even in semi auto's. the extra weight makes big difference for 10 gauges.[/q

over the years I have changed a lot of minds just by letting them pull the trigger and I still have yet to find some one that dosent like shooting the big bad 10


ps I really like the pattern master extended range its picky on what it patterns but when you find the load it likes its a amazing combo if you can stick with bbb it seems to like them the best
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby snowgoosin1 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:50 am

I usually shoot my sbe or my sbe.2 for ducks, I could shoot my Sp-10 all day long over shooting 3.5 twelve gauge loads
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby baltz526 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:21 am

I have a truelock extended .740 Full in my Gold. It patterns my 1 3/8oz BBB reloads in the 90% range at 40yrds. Larger payloads drop the percentage, 1 1/2oz BBB is in the 80% range, 1 5/8oz in the 70% range. In effect I can change my choke without touching it. Just switch shells for extra full-full-mod patterns. If you want a super full pattern, switch pellet size in the 1 3/8oz load to #1. If I want to shoot divers over big water, I shoot 1 1/2oz of #1 in the Winchester drylock hulls. The load you shoot dictates the pattern more than the choke in some respects.
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby UmatillaJeff » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:01 pm

I shoot he Briley LM in my SP-10's and the factory Browning Modifie choke in he Gold 10. I only shoot big shot. Not much point in shooting small shot in a 10ga as you gain NOTHING!

Your 12ga gun has a killing pattern all the way to the point where your steel 1's run out of energy. The only thing a 10ga gun will do shooting small shot is to ease the recoil on your shoulder ( at least in the 10ga auto's) the BPS may well kick the snot out of you.

a 10ga gun will not put more long range ducks in your bag unless you shoot big pellets.

It will not make up for a lack of shooting ability. a cloud of steel 1's and an open choke will not put long range ducks in your bag as the pellets do not have the energy.

I don't care what the charts say they should do! If they worked, I would love to have the denser pattern! A far as speed goes...

with T's all you have to do is get them to the bird. at 1350 they go out a ducks back at 70 yards.

We all want the magic formula.

My contention is that with small shot, you gain nothing in a 10ga except a warm feeling that you somehow have a long range cannon when in fact you do not. Jeff
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby solway gunner » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:53 pm

DoubleDutchChuck wrote:
grnhd wrote:
OP...you're probably going to have to go with a Briley LF since they don't make the Terror 720. If you can still get a Terror 735 that would be my choice over the Briley.


I haven't shot a .735 in any brand, but have my doubts about it/them. I've patterned loads with my full .740 and they aren't even close to the patterns I get with the .745 choke. The patterns shot with the .740 had less pellet density and were very blotchy, with a lot of holes. Don't think I could be convinced to change my .745 choke for any other size.
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ive tried the lot of them chuck they dont work for the loads and velocity i use ,ive a watermeloned .705 that i screwed up with using large lettered shot despite hajaar saying it was ok to do so.
smaller pellets /payloads appear to shoot the tighter constrictions as youd imagine they would do,but when you ramp the velocitys and increase payload size from 11/2oz-15/8oz up beyond 1450fps youd be better off with factory chokes than those tight terrors and agree with jeffs take on small shot and the 10ga,but each to his own.,also when you realise and understand what happens when a large mass of solid steel incorporating big pellets smacks into the choke profile at velocity with higher breech pressures,its no big surprise when you see the results for yourself.
briley i/m and l/f cut the mustard with big pellet loads for me also.
i think once you dip below .740 constriction your asking for negative results with big, fast pellet payloads that is.
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

Postby baltz526 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:27 pm

The reason for #1 steel in the 10ga is for ducks at the limit of a steel #1 pellets range. 144 #1 steel with a muzzle velocity of 1600fps with an extra full pattern. For picking greenheads off pass shooting out to 60yrds, Golden eyes over big water. Small #1 steel has its uses out of a 10ga. I have even killed a few geese with them, Because they where in the gun.
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Re: 10 gauge choke for long shots

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