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Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:40 pm

Hey guys,

Just joined the forum. I purchased a versa max the other day and it is patterning my high speed loads horribly. I'm looking for any suggestion for my 1700fps loads out of it. I contacted wad wizard and they don't make the terror for the versa max. I'm shooting 3" and 3 1/2" #2's.

Sorry if I'm late on an already alive conversation. Thanks so much.
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Boocephus » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:51 pm

Scroll down the topics board. There's some info down there.
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Solwaycalls » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:26 pm

I use Carlson and Briley in mine IM LF and F
The 3 1/2 inch cases in mine punches port holes in the case does yours ?
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:32 pm

Mine hasn't messed with the brass yet. What rounds are you using? I'm handloadin my own.
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Solwaycalls » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:58 pm

Home loads, ched cases Fed cases Fioc cases and Remy cases
the only cases that do not punch holes are the Remy, stronger plastic, the holes are punched clean through the plastic were the port holes are in the chamber, its nicknamed the vampire gun now as the holes are in pairs, looks like you have used a 1mm diameter hole punch on them.
I like the gun shoots well but once you fire new cases they have to be cut back to 3 inch.

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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby gooseman1 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:59 pm

I would highly suggest the ROB Roberts T-3- 690 constriction- and it patterns real close to The Terror 700 with fast loads
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:27 pm

Gooseman,

How is the t3 for close shots? I'd like to have a choke for decoying and the skybusting goose.
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby The Drake » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:48 pm

The factory chokes are worthless for anything over 35 yards with even 1550fps loads much less 1700fps loads. Mine with Carlsons 1550fps #3's Fiocchi loads throws 145-153 pellets in the 30" circle at 40 yards. I think a Briley IM would really be the sweet spot for the Versamax.

Do a search I have posted all my results on here.
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:04 pm

Solwaycalls wrote:Home loads, ched cases Fed cases Fioc cases and Remy cases
the only cases that do not punch holes are the Remy, stronger plastic, the holes are punched clean through the plastic were the port holes are in the chamber, its nicknamed the vampire gun now as the holes are in pairs, looks like you have used a 1mm diameter hole punch on them.
I like the gun shoots well but once you fire new cases they have to be cut back to 3 inch.

Eddie


The only problem I've had is with federal papers. They seperate from the brass and the hull stays in the chamber. It could be because there reloads, but I stopped using them for fear of a jam.
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:08 pm

Has anyone tried the carlsons waterfowl set in the versa max?


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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby The Drake » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:40 am

Tkrysl wrote:Has anyone tried the carlsons waterfowl set in the versa max?


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DO a search I posted all my findings with the Carlsons 3 pack
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby gooseman1 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:08 pm

The Carlson waterfowl pack is the sweet spot for that gun and the pro bore system!!
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:18 pm

Did some patterning tonight at 33yards. All of these can be found in BPI Advantages Manual.... Let me know what you guys think. And yes, those are 30" circles drawn on the back of school projects.... I'm a teacher and they make perfect pattern boards ;)

Load ID: 111018-3474 (fiocchi 3" 1oz #2 - 45hits)
Factory pro bore improved cylinder extended choke (first blue target pic)

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11018-3474 ImpCyl


Load ID: 111018-3473 (fiocchi 3" 1oz #2 - 46hits)
Factory pro bore modified choke not extended (second blue target pic)

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Modified


Load ID: 60106-974 (cheddite 3" 7/8oz #3 - 32 hits)
Factory pro bore modified choke not extended (red target)

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7/8oz modified


Load ID: 90303-513 (fiocchi 3.5" 1 1/8oz #3 - 44 hits)
Factory pro bore modified choke not extended (white target)

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1 1/8oz modified
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby The Drake » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:07 pm

I can honestly say those are the worst patterns I have ever seen bar none........
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:40 pm

So you think I should invest in an aftermarket choke, or just give up on the high speed steel.

I'm new at waterfowl. BP says you don't need very many pellets hitting a duck at 1700fps to kill it on the spot. What's your advise?


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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Bug Doc » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:03 pm

Either you have the world's largest hands, or those are not 30" circles.
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby eastcoastsoxfan » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:17 pm

My kids project bristol board like that measure 22.5" * 28"
"The old school hunters shoot what they shoot and kill as many as they always have, the newbies have their 3.5."
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:36 pm

Ok well I'm new at patterning also. I guess I misunderstood what a 30" circle was supposed to be. I measured 15x15".


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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby The Drake » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:03 pm

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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Jim Atlas » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:41 pm

Tkrysl wrote:Ok well I'm new at patterning also. I guess I misunderstood what a 30" circle was supposed to be. I measured 15x15".


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So I take it you're not the geometry teacher ...
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:07 am

No sir... US History.

I drew up some 30" targets for patterning the right way.... However... I should mention that my horrible patterns killed two Canadians this weekend.

One was banded, but the government shut down is keeping me from finding out the details on it.
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby goose_gunner » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:04 pm

those are vary thin patterns for 33yds and you are getting holes opening in your pattern ie where a small duck can sneak out with out getting hit if it was me I would think hard about shooting more shot and just have less speed also I have patterned a lot of steel in a lot of guns and chokes and it seems in 10ga and 12ga with just about any shot size and payload going 1350 to 1500 fps seems to be the sweet spot for the most even and consistent patterns
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby The Drake » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:04 am

Look in the classifieds, I am selling my Carlsons Waterfowl 3 pack. Includes IC, M and F
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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Joe Hunter » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:41 pm

Tkrysl -- Here's a link to a patterning article that you might find helpful.

http://www.wildlifedepartment.com/hunti ... erning.htm

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Re: Versa Max Pattern

Postby Tkrysl » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:58 pm

Wow. Thanks ton. Very cool Info. Eating it up!


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