pennsyltucky wrote:have you backed the cam off all the way? if the press is moving to the side during the crimp, u need to tighten the lock bolt on the "stem" more. if u need to fabricate a little, dont be shy. i had to take a chainsaw blade file to the adjusting slot on the cam for my 10ga set. solved all my troubles.
also, try to "pump" the handle down into the crimp. up and down about 1/2" while bumping the crimp down helps set the crimp even on a load that is a tad to high in the hull. and a dab of resizing lube wiped up in the crimp tube can help alot too.
Actually the two that I got to crimp last night was by pumping the handle. The file is the next step. I can see that helping the problem, but creating another. I can see another "attachment" needed though to help the side to side movement. Look inside the base from the rear. There is plenty of room on either side to allow for slop. And the single bolt will strip out before you get it tight enough to stop the movement.
thaner wrote:It does and it sounds like your crimp die is not adjusted all the way up if you can't cycle the press all the way. It sounds like you are only getting a crimp if you do not cycle the press all the way down. If this is the case and your getting a good crimp without cycling the press all the way I would say both your center and main crimp die are adjusted down too far. Unfortunately I don't load the 3 1/2" loads on my 600. However the main crimp die on all the presses are the same as far as I know and I have every thing but a steel master. I don't have a steel master, but from what I understand it is basically a grabber set up with the steel kit. I still think the problem is in the setting on your main crimp die. Double check your instructions and make sure you are going the correct way. Make sure you go all the way in the setting on the crimp die and have it backed off and then work your way back. You should be able to get it so it will not crimp all the way with a full cycle so start easing into the crimp and if you feel it getting hard like it is trying to set the crimp back off, check it and make an adjustment to the die. Do this until it goes down easy and doesn’t crimp all the way and then start dialing it back in.
It could also be the load. You would probably know if the load is not setting down good in the hull, but that's the only other thing I could think of right of hand. Steel loads can be a little tricky because the wad doesn’t have a cushion sections. Some hulls can also be harder to work with than others. The new AA hulls are an example. I picked some up off he ground at the club and they were mixed with my old style AA hulls and I had a bunch crush on me. I couldn’t figure out what was going on until I cut them open and saw the hull was different. The funny thing was that only about 50 % crushed and the others were fine. A slight crimp pressure adjustment and they were all loading fine.
Can you post a pic of the crushed hull and the crimp? Maybe one of the crimp die setting? I would assume that if you are not really crushing them way down it’s not a setting issue on the post in the press. Is there any difference in the hole spacing in the post from one side to the other where there could be a slight variation in the press height if you install it in a different hole
Thaner, I do have the cam adjusted all the way, unfortunately it's probably 1/16" - 1/8" shy of clearing. Thus hanging up on the cam roller as the inner crimp die tries to seat. The instructions do not include, per say, an adjustment for the length of the hull. Of course, you and I both see the same cam adjustment doing what we want, it's just a little shy. LOL, add-ons.......always gotta tweek 'em.
I do appreciate the advice gentlemen. I think the easiest way for now is the pumping action until I get busy with the file. Good hunting fella's.
P.S. I'll try and work up some pics for ya'll to see what I'm doing here. My camera's not that good so they might be a little blurry but should be God enough to give you an idea.