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Postby fzr600r » Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:52 pm

guys I'm new to waterfowl hunting. I'm just wondering if hevi-shot "dead coyote" T-shot ok for goose....?
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Postby portahunter » Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:17 pm

I've used it. It's effective, but can be very destructive at close ranges.(closer than 35 yds.) Every bird I shot with it was a dead kill and I did not chase any cripples. If you got the money to buy it then go for it.
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Postby fzr600r » Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:20 pm

Thanks Portalhunter
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Postby thaner » Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:56 pm

It is way over kill for geese. It will kill them at very long range, but #2 will kill them further than just about anyone is capable of shooting. There is no need for the T from an energy stand point and #2 or even #4 will give you all the range you need with many more pellets in your pattern. Save the T for the coyotes.
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Postby portahunter » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:48 pm

Seeing how we don't shoot coyotes in my area we got to use that stuff for something else. Saying that I never use that stuff for specks or Cnadians. Only those overpopulated snow geese that like to fly just a bit out of normal steel range. Never had to much luck with the regular hevi steel.
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Postby Citori12 » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:58 pm

T in a 12ga is pretty much worthless. T in a 10 is pretty well worthless on birds of any kind. Unless.........you feel like buying a case of it and feel like sitting on a public firing line then if you shoot a few hundred rounds you may break a wing on a bird or hit them in the head maybe and get one or two.....

T here is legal...but its really not effective because its energy far surpasses its pattern capability....in a 12ga T steel patterns fair at 40 yards. In a 10ga 45 yards...its energy goes to about 70 yards in above freezing weather...but it does not shoot well.

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Postby portahunter » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:07 pm

Dang. I must have gotten a good box then. 8 geese with 9 rounds.
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Postby fzr600r » Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:14 pm

ok guys made my mind up. Now let me ask you about what choke you
would use.....
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Postby Sagebrush » Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:14 pm

Portahunter;

If you would have used # 3 or 2's , you would have got all nine !

For the best pellet count and energy, # 2's are all you need.

I have not been able to get a 70% pattern at 80 yards in all my test.

I know what the limit on # 2 Hevi is in my gun by several chokes
and different loads, that I have tested.

Hevi is great stuff, but only as good as your gun's pattern !! :thumbsup:

Best all around, I think is # 4's, for duck & geese.

Just my 2 cents
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Postby quackhunter » Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:41 pm

The hevi shot stuff tends to like open chokes. I would say an IC or Light mod choke would be the way to go :thumbsup:
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Postby ducksbuck » Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:40 pm

Dead Coyote threw a real nice pattern through my Pattern Master at 75 yrds. I put 27 of 54 pellets on a paper plate. I am with everyone else though. Much easier to hit with smaller shot, and plenty of energy.

Seeing how we don't shoot coyotes in my area we got to use that stuff for something else.


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Postby portahunter » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:11 am

Sagebrush. There were actually two misses with all that. The first one was my aiming. I didn't aim properly and missed as a result, not the rounds fault. Second time I doubled on the first shot and didn't realize it until I pulled up to the second bird and he was already falling. I had already started to pull the trigger so instead of hitting the second bird twice I pulled the gun up and fired into the air. Neither one was the rounds fault. I used #2's before and have only had them cripple or bounce off the birds. I'd use a modified choke, but if you know your going to be making only long shot then use a full.
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Postby fowlaholic » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:05 pm

*** bouncing off the birds lol
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Postby pennsyltucky » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:09 pm

porta, hevi-2's dont bounce off anything but steel inside 100 yards. thats about the same as saying a 30-06 isnt enuf gun for squirrels...... and even the 2's are overkill for any bird smaller than a swan.
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Postby portahunter » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:56 pm

Ok. Let me clarify. #2 steel shot not hevi shot. I used a little bit of hevi shot on a guided hunt this past weekend and it didn't do to well for me. I couldn't hit squat. When I'm using regular steel I use BB. The only reason Dead Coyote T's cause so much damage is that they are like regular rifle rounds or pistol rounds and shatter upon impact with anything solid. I took a round apart and hit a pellet with a rubber mallet and it fragmented into several pieces. I didn't even hit it with that much force so I'd imagine it'd do the same thing if it hits a goose.

I'm going goose hunting in the morning. I'll be using 3 1/2 inch BB's and 3 1/2 inch #2's steel shot. I'll see which one works better. Didn't get any gandermountain gift cards for christmas so my days of shooting any hevi shot products are over.
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Postby TheHunt » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:58 pm

Steel T's work great in my 10 gauge. That is my choice for a goose shell. All I can tell you is buy one box and hunt with it. If you can put the hammer down on the geese then use it. BTW, I reload my own shells so it cost me much less for my shells.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:13 pm

t works in my 10 too. 1's and BB's work alot better. get urself a patternboard. as a fellow reloader for the mighty 10ga, you might try the 1600fps 1's in ur modified sometime. bet they will "hammer down" even better than u thot you could shoot..... :cool:
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Postby C&T Choppin Crew » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:03 pm

Had my first shoot with those dead coyotes on geese out of my 12 gauge a couple days ago there pretty nice if your hitting them, but it hit your wallet hard if yer missing them shot 1 goose the whole day and it was about 65 yards away took me one shot and it hit the ground like a ton of bricks great for those long range shots...

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Postby MOwaterfowler » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:30 pm

love it enough power to take a deer down.

T hevi is = to lead #4 buckshot or 0 Buck i forget witch.

should be no problems dropping geese.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:44 pm

its O buck lead. the problem with shooting geese with it is that u cant get any more than 1 in the bird at the ranges that its useful.
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Postby Citori12 » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:36 pm

:getdown: :salude: :thumbsup: Ok ok I am with sage and penny.....I never miss either...NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........but I do ok inside 40 yards....but I do not need T inside 40 and if anybody was real serious...pattern anything outside 60.....its not gonna be there a shotgun is a scatter gun it works best with even density on birds....for humans I choose.....00 buck with cylinder choke...killed 8 out of 9 for me and I didn't get killed either...for birds select something reasonable you will be happier trust me.... :getdown: :salude: :laughing:
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Postby fzr600r » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:01 pm

Fellow hunters I will stand by this statement, Dead Coyote (T-Shot) will fold up any goose....Shot my first bird today, what a rush. Yes I used Dead Coyote.. so did my friend of mine. We both drop 1 goose a piece with 1 shot a piece, about 40 yards out..... Folded right up.. No chasing any wounded birds...I love waterfowl hunting.....
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Postby pennsyltucky » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:29 pm

steel 1's or 2's will fold up a goose at 40 yards too. it doesnt take T's to kill a goose.
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Postby portahunter » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:49 pm

If he's got the money then let him use them. There's no doubt that they're excellent at killing geese. A little overkill, yes. If I had the money I'd probably shot another box or two because right now I can't hit anything with BB's or 2's and the stores around here don't sell 1's. Most of my goose meat is going into making sausage so it doesn't matter if the meat is a little torn up.
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Postby Sagebrush » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:58 pm

T hevi will kill anything smaller than an Elk. :laughing: :laughing:


However , 95% of the stuff on the shelves is # 7.5 up to # 2's. :thumbsup:
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