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Postby thaner » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:35 am

Just getting back into duck hunting after a couple of years off. Have no experience with the faster steel. Was thinking about going back to a 3 1/2" gun and 1500 fps steel. I like pattern density. I have never been satisfied with those #2 3" loads, and I don't think I will like the faster ones much better. May hit harder but I alway though it was the pattern density not the speed that was the problem.

I like the look of the 3 1/2" #3 1500 fps steel. How well do they work and at what kind of range can you take the big ducks?

Is there a better all around load for steel on ducks out to 40 yd.?

I shoot a lot of targets, all with 1200 fps loads, any one do the same that could comment on hunting with the 1500 fps loads?
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Postby 98ramtough » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:48 am

Thaner,

Do you hunt over decoys? If you are hunting over decoys I would recommend 6s or 4s. If they are within 30 yards your pattern is so thick I think I see less cripples that 2s or 1s at this range. I shoot a full choke and with 1s and 2s going 1550 I can drop birds from 40 no problem, but the cripple rate is higher. Get better on the call and work the birds in closer and use 2s 4s or 6s depending on your preference. Speed is everything with steel. HV or nothing for me.
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Postby thaner » Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:46 pm

98ramtough

I hunt over decoys most of the time, but sometimes you get one on the edge or hit one and want to nock it down on the way out. I was worried the #4 wouldn't work and I just seam to have problems with the 3" #2 killing clean.

This year I shot 8 green heads on two days with 12 bismut shells, they were all dead when they hit the water. I ran out of Bis. and went to3" nito mag. #2's and proceded to shoot 4 more the next day out, but with twice the number of shells per bird. Shot most of them a second time on the water.

Always heard the small steel wasn't much good on the big ducks. The fast stuff must be OK. Maybe I'll give the HV #4 3" a try, thanks!
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Postby 98ramtough » Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:41 pm

thaner,

Some guys incist on using bbs and such for 25 to 30 yard shots.

I watched a lot of ducks die to 6s this weekend.
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Postby JWG » Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:06 pm

good pheasant load
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Postby Thundersnow » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:35 pm

3's are suppose to be the best all around steel for all sizes of ducks according to some studies. Use an ic up to about 35 yards and modified to about 45 or so and you should be killing the heck out of them.

Steel 6's are suppose to be great up to 35 yards. 4's are suppose to be fine up to 45 yards. These are considering you get a even pattern and the loads are going between 1225fps- 1450fps

The 1500fps loads are nice. You can tell the difference between the regular lead loads , but, it seems you hit more (at least at first) I guess because most shots are missed behind.
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Postby NS39340 » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:42 pm

over dekes all u need is 2 3/4 but if u like 3 1/2, go with 4 or 6 over dekes
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Postby thaner » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:51 pm

Sounds like the HV #4 steel is a good load for reasonable ranges. I think the 3" 1 1/4 oz load has plenty of them to fill a pattern. I was thinking 3 1/2" just to get enough bigger stuff to fill the holes the 3" loads tend to have.

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