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Briley vs terror chokes

Postby goose_gunner » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:26 am

I would really like to from guys that have patterned both chokes head to head is trying to find a terror worth it or just go with the briley and save some money and get a choke for what ever you want when ever you want it and the pros and cons of both like does one like speed one not or big shot or not is one better in 10ga or 12ga ect
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby 10gaOkie » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:24 am

They both are of the same design. Which is they taper off to their tightest constriction in the middle and remain that size bore to the muzzle of the choke tube. Production of Terrors has stopped, thus remaining stock is being sold off for as long as it lasts. I have both in 10 and 12, I like and use both.

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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby solway gunner » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:34 pm

ive shot and patterned .705 .720 .735 terrors,using steel powder with tps wads in loadings from 11/2oz -15/8oz ,with shot size bbb -tt velocitys from 1450fps -1500fps they failed miserably.
the same loads in briley extended including sam1 10ga wads in .745 and .743 brileys proved totaly superior in every detail.,they are what i use daily on the marsh.

same design?they arent,theyre totaly different,or terror would still be in business making 10ga,also both choke designs are patented to their own manufacturers,to stop anyone copying their designs.


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i thought you had a terror 10ga.720?? that you were complaining of in your recent thread ?
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby 10gaOkie » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:05 pm

Both of by Benelli 12s each have a .700 Terror in them. My Gold 10 has a Briley .745. These are my goto guns that I use the most.

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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby goose_gunner » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:00 am

thanks for the info guy I think next year im going to try the briley im kinda pulling my hair out with my 720 it wont pattern big shot any better that 50 to 60% at 50yds I also have big swings in number of hits from shot to shot also it seems like every 3rd round has big holes in the pattern but in the 12ga it is great I don't know what to think a bout it :huh:
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby solway gunner » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:39 am

experiment with different wads and alter your loads.,use smaller shot...etc..theres nothing quite like patterning steel shot to drive you nuts at times..a wad could be all it takes.Theres guys on here that have success with them..if you still have no joy sell it.. theyre in big demand by all accounts.
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby River Hill » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:38 am

I have recently played with some Briley's and very happy with them.
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby Sagebrush » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:41 am

I bought one Briley extended Mod. to try in my 391 auto for the safty of the main barrel with any
use of large steel pellets and was getting 70 -76% patterns at 50 yards so I never had to try out a
Terror choke.

I do have an extra full Strut "Undertaker" for my lead loads that also patterns very tight groups out
to 50 yards for my "Handicap" shooting. Shooting fast from just the 16 yard trap line does not leave
any room for error on 25-30 yard clays !
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby grnhd » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:44 am

goose_gunner wrote:thanks for the info guy I think next year im going to try the briley im kinda pulling my hair out with my 720 it wont pattern big shot any better that 50 to 60% at 50yds I also have big swings in number of hits from shot to shot also it seems like every 3rd round has big holes in the pattern but in the 12ga it is great I don't know what to think a bout it :huh:


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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby TexasGeese » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:09 pm

Never tried a Terror choke, even with all the pumping on these forums. Been happy with Birley extended chokes for sometime now and at a fraction of the cost of a Terror.
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby MK10 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:01 pm

solway gunner wrote:experiment with different wads and alter your loads.,use smaller shot...etc..theres nothing quite like patterning steel shot to drive you nuts at times..a wad could be all it takes.Theres guys on here that have success with them..if you still have no joy sell it.. theyre in big demand by all accounts.


Good advice!

Varying your load components and/or specifications (i.e. wad type, load velocity, load weight, shot size etc.) maybe just the trick to decent long range pattern performance.
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby MK10 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:07 pm

goose_gunner wrote:I would really like to from guys that have patterned both chokes head to head is trying to find a terror worth it or just go with the briley and save some money and get a choke for what ever you want when ever you want it and the pros and cons of both like does one like speed one not or big shot or not is one better in 10ga or 12ga ect


I've been very happy with my Briley X2 (extended) series and Buck Gardner Signature series chokes.
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby Hat Flats » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:24 pm

Save yourself some cash and give Carlsons a call, Briley's generally run tighter constriction than they are marked, Cost more and have a poor warranty. Briley's do not pattern any better than Trulock or Carlsons. Trulock and Carlsons both will help you out down the road Briley will not, you bought it you own it, as soon as you fire a shot through it, tough luck buy another. I own several sets of Extended Briley chokes for both Browning and Beretta. I will tell you that after way to many hours at patterning boards the other brands mentioned pattern side by side with them no discernible difference except that the Brileys do not stay tight as long as my Trulocks or Carlsons in my guns.

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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby goose_gunner » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:48 pm

solway gunner wrote:ive shot and patterned .705 .720 .735 terrors,using steel powder with tps wads in loadings from 11/2oz -15/8oz ,with shot size bbb -tt velocitys from 1450fps -1500fps they failed miserably.
the same loads in briley extended including sam1 10ga wads in .745 and .743 brileys proved totaly superior in every detail.,they are what i use daily on the marsh.

same design?they arent,theyre totaly different,or terror would still be in business making 10ga,also both choke designs are patented to their own manufacturers,to stop anyone copying their designs.


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i thought you had a terror 10ga.720?? that you were complaining of in your recent thread ?


yes I was and I changed up the loads yet again and still going crazy and I patterned every factory load I picked up over the years still not happy
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby goose_gunner » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:51 pm

solway gunner wrote:experiment with different wads and alter your loads.,use smaller shot...etc..theres nothing quite like patterning steel shot to drive you nuts at times..a wad could be all it takes.Theres guys on here that have success with them..if you still have no joy sell it.. theyre in big demand by all accounts.


Im down to 1s in the 10ga and I have loaded 4 to f in it and im still not vary happy but the 12ga great with just about any thing at 40yds
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby goose_gunner » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:55 pm

grnhd wrote:
goose_gunner wrote:thanks for the info guy I think next year im going to try the briley im kinda pulling my hair out with my 720 it wont pattern big shot any better that 50 to 60% at 50yds I also have big swings in number of hits from shot to shot also it seems like every 3rd round has big holes in the pattern but in the 12ga it is great I don't know what to think a bout it :huh:


What wad are you using?


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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby goose_gunner » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:00 pm

MK10 wrote:
solway gunner wrote:experiment with different wads and alter your loads.,use smaller shot...etc..theres nothing quite like patterning steel shot to drive you nuts at times..a wad could be all it takes.Theres guys on here that have success with them..if you still have no joy sell it.. theyre in big demand by all accounts.


Good advice!

Varying your load components and/or specifications (i.e. wad type, load velocity, load weight, shot size etc.) maybe just the trick to decent long range pattern performance.


the 12ga does great but the 10ga not so much I have shot 11/2oz and 15/8 in 4 to f shot 1300 to 1500fps still not much luck at 50yds
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby goose_gunner » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:07 pm

Hat Flats wrote:Save yourself some cash and give Carlsons a call, Briley's generally run tighter constriction than they are marked, Cost more and have a poor warranty. Briley's do not pattern any better than Trulock or Carlsons. Trulock and Carlsons both will help you out down the road Briley will not, you bought it you own it, as soon as you fire a shot through it, tough luck buy another. I own several sets of Extended Briley chokes for both Browning and Beretta. I will tell you that after way to many hours at patterning boards the other brands mentioned pattern side by side with them no discernible difference except that the Brileys do stay tight as long as my Trulocks or Carlsons in my guns.

Kurt


Sorry man wont do it I bought one for my sbe and after patterning 40 to 50 loads from 23/4 to 3.5 and not getting one good patterning load I gave up on them I really don't think I will ever get another carlsons choke
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:57 pm

Sorry I dont agree about the Carlson chokes. I have bought several and have yet to find a load that works in them anywhere near what a Briley or Terror will give me. Mainly use a SBE 12 and a Gold 10. I will never buy another Carlson.

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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby Jon Bergren » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:50 am

I have good luck with Carlson chokes as well as Briley, Trulock and Terror. You shouldn't use Terror chokes for BBB or larger. Barrel resonance is what causes bad patterns. My guns would not pattern 2's until I got the 935 and Excell. I now loaded RSI with 1 1/8 oz in the 3" Rem and Cheddite hulls with 2's for 3 rd shot and occasional goose while hunting mallards. I use extended non ported IC or light mod chokes mostly. Ned S
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby grnhd » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:44 am

goose_gunner wrote:
grnhd wrote:
goose_gunner wrote:thanks for the info guy I think next year im going to try the briley im kinda pulling my hair out with my 720 it wont pattern big shot any better that 50 to 60% at 50yds I also have big swings in number of hits from shot to shot also it seems like every 3rd round has big holes in the pattern but in the 12ga it is great I don't know what to think a bout it :huh:


What wad are you using?


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In my opinion there is your problem. For me that is the most inconsistent patterning wad of any I've tried. I wont shoot them. PM me your address and I'll send you a few good wads to test :thumbsup:

And to touch on the Carlson chokes....they pattern fine for me and have great customer service.
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby Hat Flats » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:14 pm

goose_gunner wrote:
Hat Flats wrote:Save yourself some cash and give Carlsons a call, Briley's generally run tighter constriction than they are marked, Cost more and have a poor warranty. Briley's do not pattern any better than Trulock or Carlsons. Trulock and Carlsons both will help you out down the road Briley will not, you bought it you own it, as soon as you fire a shot through it, tough luck buy another. I own several sets of Extended Briley chokes for both Browning and Beretta. I will tell you that after way to many hours at patterning boards the other brands mentioned pattern side by side with them no discernible difference except that the Brileys do not stay tight as long as my Trulocks or Carlsons in my guns.

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Sorry man wont do it I bought one for my sbe and after patterning 40 to 50 loads from 23/4 to 3.5 and not getting one good patterning load I gave up on them I really don't think I will ever get another carlsons choke


Then you won't like the Briley's any better they are the same design Taper and Parallel section nothing special just more cash, I would call Carsons and or Trulock they are both great company's and will exchange chokes if you are not happy, they can help troubleshooting your patterning issues as well. The problem is you are using reloads if it was factory ammo they could set you up pretty easy.

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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby goose_gunner » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:48 pm

Hat Flats wrote:
goose_gunner wrote:
Hat Flats wrote:Save yourself some cash and give Carlsons a call, Briley's generally run tighter constriction than they are marked, Cost more and have a poor warranty. Briley's do not pattern any better than Trulock or Carlsons. Trulock and Carlsons both will help you out down the road Briley will not, you bought it you own it, as soon as you fire a shot through it, tough luck buy another. I own several sets of Extended Briley chokes for both Browning and Beretta. I will tell you that after way to many hours at patterning boards the other brands mentioned pattern side by side with them no discernible difference except that the Brileys do not stay tight as long as my Trulocks or Carlsons in my guns.

Kurt


Sorry man wont do it I bought one for my sbe and after patterning 40 to 50 loads from 23/4 to 3.5 and not getting one good patterning load I gave up on them I really don't think I will ever get another carlsons choke


Then you won't like the Briley's any better they are the same design Taper and Parallel section nothing special just more cash, I would call Carsons and or Trulock they are both great company's and will exchange chokes if you are not happy, they can help troubleshooting your patterning issues as well. The problem is you are using reloads if it was factory ammo they could set you up pretty easy.

Good Luck, Kurt


that was with all factory ammo in the sbe and I don't know what you mean reloads are the problem :huh:
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby Hat Flats » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:52 pm

My bad, must be foggy I thought I read something about reloads in there somewhere? Sorry... Here is a lesson I learned awhile back I found an Unfired 870 Magnum Wingmaster built in 1977 and decided to trick it out so I picked up a 28" light contour Rem Choke barrel and Synthetic Stocks. When I patterned it (3" Kent 1 1/8oz 3's) I had just picked up a Carlsons Lt-Mod and at 35 yards you could throw a Mallard through the pattern and never touch a feather I thought this choke is crap! Then a few years latter I decided to have an all out patterning duel between all of the top Brands of 3' #2"s & 3"s. The first thing I found was that 3" 1 1/4oz loads far out patterned any of the 3" 1 1/8oz loads I tried, but along the way the Carlsons Lt-Mod came back out and I could not believe how well it patterned with Fed Prem. and it was even better with Rem Nitro Mags! My SBE II and my Cynergy liked those same loads as well. Only my Cynergy patterned decent with Kents. Some guns are just picky! But after shooting a ton of rounds and burning several large rolls of paper 3" 1,1/4oz @1450fps far out patterned everything else, my results came out in this order: 1. Rem Nitro Mag (Tight and even) 2. Fed Prem (Tight almost as even) 3. Win Supreme (More open but very Even) 4. Kent (open and sporadic) 5. Hevi-Metal worst of all by a large margin no matter the gun or choke used, I won't hunt with these I have three boxes being used as weights were needed around my garage :wink:, FYI; Black Cloud was pretty much a tie for second.

I hope you come up with a winner, Kurt
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Re: Briley vs terror chokes

Postby 10gaOkie » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:22 am

I get vastly better patterns when using Briley chokes compared to Carlson. I have yet to try a single Carlson that I would consider hunting with.

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