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Best hulls

Postby Ned S » Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:59 pm

Best Hull for 2 3/4 steel is the GM and for 3 and 3 1/2 is the Rem hull. However I load them all including estates and Rio's pitching them after one reload. Ned S
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Postby Sagebrush » Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:53 pm

I disagree.............

For 1oz or less the Win AA is best.

For light 1 1/8oz at 1430fps Rem are best.

I only use the GM for 1 1/8 oz loads at 1475fps, since they
cost more than the other hulls.

This is with powders 800x and Alliant "Steel" and W209 primers.

If you use other powders, I would probably agree with you.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:12 am

i disagree too. i use the GM, but the other federals are still better than the rem's. i use federals for almost everything. 7/8oz loads of steel or lead i put in rem sts, but thats it.
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Postby steelcommander » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:24 am

Ned, how can you say the 3 1/2" Rem. hull is better than the Federal?
I've been a novice reloader going on 20 years.
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Postby Sagebrush » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:50 am

Penn;

For light loads under 1 1/8 oz, the WinAA hull uses LESS POWDER

than the "hollow" Federal hulls.

The only problem with the Win & Rem. tapered hulls is that you

HAVE to use the SAM1 wad ............!!!! :pissed:

The straight wall Federals can use all the wads...........!!!! :thumbsup:


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Postby Ned S » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:53 am

Because I blow the ends off of 3" and 3 1/2" Federals and get the best patterns with the Rems. As soon as Don Parker comes up with a 7/8 oz load for the AA I'll shoot them. Ned S
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Postby pennsyltucky » Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:56 pm

Ned S wrote:Because I blow the ends off of 3" and 3 1/2" Federals and get the best patterns with the Rems. As soon as Don Parker comes up with a 7/8 oz load for the AA I'll shoot them. Ned S


u blow the crimps off because your wad tips are too high. cut em back so the shot is actually higher than the wad. it will setback, and your hulls will last much longer.
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Postby Sagebrush » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:21 pm

It's called .......inertia

Like when you are on a mono rail rocket car.

When they light the fuse, you sink 3 feet into the seat !!

Or like my brother did to me.....

He put a $100 bill on the window of his 440 mag dodge.

Told me I could keep it, if I could reach it, AFTER he hit the gas!!


It really flattens soft lead at 1200fps. That is why "mag" lead is used
in high Vel. trap loads.


Hope I did not bore you........... :eek:

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Postby NV Guide » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:43 pm

Come, come now. We all know that the best hull for my hunting loads is the WINCHESTER AAHS of course. Oh yea thats 28ga.
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Postby Ned S » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:28 am

30% of the 3" and 3 1/2" Fed hulls have part of the crimp blown off when I get them from my guide friend. I make hard crimps to maintain velocities. I can load the 3" and 3 1/2 Rem once fired hulls 3 times before I get pressure drop. I have unlimited supply of hulls from my guide friend. I load on two used Mec Jrs set for 2 3/4 and 3". I do all resizing on a used Mec Super Sizer. I prime deprime my 3 1/2 hulls on the 3" Mec and do the final crimp on an old used single Stage Texan in a sleeve. No buckling and hard crimps. I drop all my powder using a Lyman 1200 powder drop. Ned S
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Postby Ned S » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:26 pm

I shot the AA hull with 38 grs and the old Win 209 primerwith 1 oz of 3's. This load ran 1650 fps and 12,800 psi, not for everyone. This was my pet mallard load. When Win changed to the blue box 209's the consistancy went to hell getting a 900 fps spread in 9 loads., I did this experiment 2 times for a total of 27 shells. Anxiously waiting Don Parker to publish the 7/8 oz load in the AA. I suspect 36 grs will be about right. I have shot several of these. Ned S the young 78 yr old.
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