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Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby PAwaterfowldominator » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:59 am

Looking to run an aftermarket choke out of my SBE 2 and A5. I've been doing some reading that patternmasters don't work well with Hypersonic loads. What all do you guys recommend?
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby Jake88 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:14 am

With a load that fast, keep the choke more open than you normally would, probably a light modified. Only problem is most choke tube mfgs recommend no more than 1550 fps
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby 10gaOkie » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:28 am

Loads of 1450 to 1550 will give the best patterns when matched with the right aftermarket choke. I shoot the most lethal load I can get my hands on. That load choke combo is a 1 1/8oz of #2s at 1475fps through a .700" constriction choke.

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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby BBK » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:05 am

You are going to have trouble with most afermarket chokes and a load that heavy going that fast. Try your factory IC.
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby gooseman1 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:41 pm

Recoil is Tremendas with Hypersonic, and be prepared to be replacing parts on your SBE, that load damages allot of guns, if u do a search, u will find most guys don't like them! I toataly Agree with the above posts- stay between 1450-1550 and will have all the speed u need- With much better patterns!!
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby PAwaterfowldominator » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:58 pm

gooseman1 wrote:Recoil is Tremendas with Hypersonic, and be prepared to be replacing parts on your SBE, that load damages allot of guns, if u do a search, u will find most guys don't like them! I toataly Agree with the above posts- stay between 1450-1550 and will have all the speed u need- With much better patterns!!


I have had nothing but great luck with them. They pattern great out of my factory chokes but I wondered if there was something better. I haven't heard anything about them breaking guns.
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby BBK » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:10 pm

There are some posts on here from 2011/2012 claiming damage from hypersonics. As far as I know none of them were proven to have been caused by the loads in question. Either way, the recoil can't be GOOD for guns. I wouldn't shoot them, but that's just me.

There are some videos on youtube of guys just wrecking geese with hypers. I bet they are a darn nice load if you can manage the recoil and muzzle jump.
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby Rockbuggy1 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:23 pm

I destroyed a kicks high flyer modified shooting these shells. Caught a "good" deal and bought 3 boxes of 3 1/2 BB. I'll never shoot them again. I'm 6'2" and 245lbs and i found recoil to be borderline unbearable. Twice I fired without the gun perfectly seated on my shoulder and the recoil literally broke my middle finger with the trigger guard. Also at least one out every 3 shots would blow the bolt open on my 870 supermag and fling the empty farther than my buddies browning gold 10 ever thought about.
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby PAwaterfowldominator » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:49 pm

Im sorry guys but I've never had anything but great experiences with hypers (knock on wood). I don't think the recoil is too much too handle and so far my guns haven't either (knock on wood once again). I guess I'll keep running them out of my factory chokes.
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby BBK » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:53 pm

What ranges are you shooting at? You might want to give the carlson's midrange or close range a try. They are good for all speeds I believe. The long range/full is only good for 1550fps.

If you are killing birds then by all means stick with the load that is working for you! :thumbsup:
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby mawtrfowler » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:55 pm

I've had my fingers slammed while shooting them and had the unparalleled amount of debris coming out of the barrel blow into my face from my buddies gun 10ft away. And there's no way they are good for the gun, you might now feel it but you can definitely hear the bolt slamming the back of the receiver harder than any other load
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby 3200 man » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:00 pm

Shooting Hypersonics takes a well-built choke that comes with a 4" recoil pad , new spring kit for your gun and a
bottle of ALEVE . You have to bring your own Beer and after awhile ( say 45 min ) you can hear what I was saying ,
You don't need 1700 fps loads to kill ducks !
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby gooseman1 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:18 am

3200 man wrote:Shooting Hypersonics takes a well-built choke that comes with a 4" recoil pad , new spring kit for your gun and a
bottle of ALEVE . You have to bring your own Beer and after awhile ( say 45 min ) you can hear what I was saying ,
You don't need 1700 fps loads to kill ducks !

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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby 10gaOkie » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:25 am

The very best, "most lethal" load, I have found, for shooting ducks or geese in the decoys out to 45 or even 50 yards is a 2 3/4" shell with 1 1/8oz of plain ole steel shot #2s at 1475fps. A load of Hyper Sonic, Blindside, Black Cloud, Hevi Metal or a diff choke is not going to make you a better shot. Patterning your loads and gun/choke combo plus regular practice at the skeet range WILL make you and your setup more lethal. The recoil of Hyper Sonic will eventually effect your shooting ability. Even though I shoot a gun that has 3.5" chamber, I still choose to shoot 2 3/4" shells as they are the most lethal I have found. Of course I am speaking of a well matched and tested reload to my equipment.
Paying extra for those designer/hyped loads is foolish. This includes paying $4 a shell for Hevi Shot. If I were limited to factory fodder only, I would go with Kent Fasteel, Rem Nitro Steel or Fed Speed Shok in a 2 3/4 or 3" shell offering. Then start matching the right choke to those.

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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby gooseman1 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:34 am

Well said Chris! The Chamber Pressure has to be incredible with Hypers-even with there wad design, if i were to shoot remingtons, i would shoot the Nitro steel, and do a little home work with chokes, and find my sweet spot!
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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby 10gaOkie » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:47 am

Last season, I was forced by low water and shooting conditions to leave my 10ga at home. After a whole season of using nothing but my 12ga and the 2 3/4" handload I spoke of, I quickly saw that my shooting success improved two fold over my 10ga that I had previously used on geese at distances out to 50 to 55 yards. At distances past that, the 10ga would certainly come into play and out perform my 12ga and my pip squeek handload. I based this opinion from pass shooting geese mainly and at 60 yards, the 12ga falls on its face. In short, dont shoot past your effective range as you will feel much better about your shooting.


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Re: Best Hypersonic Choke?

Postby Garage » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:36 pm

you might find Carson's modified to be the best. it shoots the tightest for me, anyway
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