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The 20 can almost do it all

Postby hamernhonkers » Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:47 pm

In one day :lol3:

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It went 2 shots 2 phes, 3 shots 2 geese and we won't discuss the chuckers. All were shot with the kent 7/8 oz load of 2 shot and are all wild birds.

If I would not been more worried about finding more geese to feed it for tomorrow I probably could of added a few ducks and maybe even a pine chicken.

The 20 is a very capable bore size and people don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Remember according to everyone who posts on here we all keep our shots to 40 and under and these birds were no different :)

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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby goosepit2007 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:54 pm

looks like you had fun!!!!

i agree i shoot 7/8 loads going 1500-1550 fps in 12 gauge, so really I should be shooting my 20 gauge, truth be known!!!! it does not make differrence if the 7/8 loads are shot in the 12 or the 20 gauge!!!!


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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby Sagebrush » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:08 pm

That had to be a fun day.....

I see the dog cage.............one reason that chucker is in the group, Maybe ?
They are the Nevada "Ghost" without a dog...........

Chucker and cotton tail make a great "Gumbo" if you can get them.

Way to go.
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby 3200 man » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:08 am

Hammer'n

Those will make a fine Thanksgiving dinner , I too shoot my 20 ga , maybe not enough but enough to know inside 40 yds
with a LM on the Bottom and a IM on top with 7/8 oz of Kent 3" It's Deadly .

It's also alot of fun on the SPORTING CLAYS range !
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby John Duck » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:59 pm

I think it was the late, great. Jimmy Robinson, who owned the famous ducking club on Lake Manitoba, Canada, that is now for sale that said "There is only 1 waterfowl gage and that is a 12" No one becomes a great duck shot today because the limits are too small. When the old limits dropped below 30 in the 1930's many great shots gave up waterfowling saying it was not worth it anymore. Anyone that has sat in a small duck boat taking shots from all crazy and impossible angles and ranges, knows the limited shot and extra long shot string of the 20 just is not the right recipe even for ducks that have good manners.
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby micneador » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:29 am

 just is not the right recipe even for ducks that have good manners

I call b.s. sir, the 20 is perfectly capable with todays loads. 3 straight seasons with my 20 and kent #2, no dog and only 2 lost birds due to heart shots in the timber. Do I have cripples? Yes, just as any guy shooting even the heaviest bismuth/tungsten loads. I've taken ducks large and small, big resident canadas, turkey, coyotes, pheasant, amd crows with no problems what so ever.
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby hawglips » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:08 am

Looks like you had a lot of fun!
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby 3200 man » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:29 am

This has something to do with the Indian , not the bow or arrow !

A good shooter who understands his gun and loads , takes shots with-in his/equiptments abilities and very seldom misses !

Using the right gun /ammo for the distance of a bird is the name of the Game !
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby hamernhonkers » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:19 am

John Duck wrote:I think it was the late, great. Jimmy Robinson, who owned the famous ducking club on Lake Manitoba, Canada, that is now for sale that said "There is only 1 waterfowl gage and that is a 12" No one becomes a great duck shot today because the limits are too small. When the old limits dropped below 30 in the 1930's many great shots gave up waterfowling saying it was not worth it anymore. Anyone that has sat in a small duck boat taking shots from all crazy and impossible angles and ranges, knows the limited shot and extra long shot string of the 20 just is not the right recipe even for ducks that have good manners.


Yep shotshell technology really has come a long ways hasn't it.

To bad most peoples shooting skills haven't keep up.

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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby BBK » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:25 am

Ignore him, he's a troll.

The 20 is perfectly capable of taking any bird within 40 yards, from a dove to a swan... if you are skilled enough to put the pattern on the bird.
Why do I shoot 3.5" for geese? Because they don't make a 4" yet!
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby z51 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:30 am

Anyone who keeps bringing up shot string is clueless.
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby dakotashooter2 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:35 am

I won't say shot string is meaningless but most of my birds are shot coming straight in or rising, negating or diminishing the effect.

When the old limits dropped below 30 in the 1930's many great shots gave up waterfowling saying it was not worth it anymore
. Obviously more interested in the limits than the "sport"..........Great shooters and great sportsmen do not neccessarily go hand in hand..............
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby BBK » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:36 am

dakotashooter2 wrote:I won't say shot string is meaningless but most of my birds are shot coming straight in or rising, negating or diminishing the effect.



I will. You have a duck flying 5 fps and a shotstring flying 1100fps. Don't see how a duck can fly through or into a shotstring. :lol3:
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby mudpack » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:42 pm

hamernhonkers wrote:The 20 is a very capable bore size and people don't let anyone tell you otherwise..

It is very capable....as long as you don't ask it to perform beyond its abilities.
Capabilities that are somewhat less than those of a gauge that will shoot larger payloads.

People kill Canada geese every year with a .410. That doesn't mean the .410 is a good waterfowl gun; it is not, for the same reasons the 20 is not comparable to a 12, or a 12 comparable to a 10.

My hunting buddy shoots a 20 and nothing else for our early teal season. He's deadly with it. One of the reasons is that we don't have to take shots over 30 yards on those early Bluewings. When the regular season starts, and the big ducks start giving us some shots over 30 yards, he switches to his 12 or even his 10. He's a wise and experienced waterfowler.
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby ks_waterfowler » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:54 pm

mudpack wrote:
hamernhonkers wrote:The 20 is a very capable bore size and people don't let anyone tell you otherwise..

It is very capable....as long as you don't ask it to perform beyond its abilities.
Capabilities that are somewhat less than those of a gauge that will shoot larger payloads.

People kill Canada geese every year with a .410. That doesn't mean the .410 is a good waterfowl gun; it is not, for the same reasons the 20 is not comparable to a 12, or a 12 comparable to a 10.

My hunting buddy shoots a 20 and nothing else for our early teal season. He's deadly with it. One of the reasons is that we don't have to take shots over 30 yards on those early Bluewings. When the regular season starts, and the big ducks start giving us some shots over 30 yards, he switches to his 12 or even his 10. He's a wise and experienced waterfowler.

Apparently not too wise or experienced if he is taking shots over 30 yards. Maybe you guys need me to come out and show you how to hunt.
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby mudpack » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:10 pm

ks_waterfowler wrote:Maybe you guys need me to come out and show you how to hunt.

That should be interesting.
While you're here, we can show you how to shoot.
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby ks_waterfowler » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:28 pm

mudpack wrote:
ks_waterfowler wrote:Maybe you guys need me to come out and show you how to hunt.

That should be interesting.
While you're here, we can show you how to shoot.
:biggrin:

Don't need any help there either. 6 for 7 on the opener.
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby solway gunner » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:51 pm

jesse,
nice work with the squirrel gun :thumbsup:
next time use a 12ga,itl save on the strained inferiority complexes out there :yes:
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby cootlover » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:50 pm

FYI I shot 3 ducks yesterday from 40 -45 yards with my m2 20 ga so I guess I don't need a 12 ga .2 were big azz golden eyes
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby hamernhonkers » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:59 pm

Yesterday and today for the little 20 that can't.


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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby hamernhonkers » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:00 pm

solway gunner wrote:jesse,
nice work with the squirrel gun :thumbsup:
next time use a 12ga,itl save on the strained inferiority complexes out there :yes:



But that's half the fun Kev :lol3:

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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby dakotashooter2 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:02 pm

An hours work with the 20 ga. Would have taken 15 minutes if my eyes could tell drakes from hens further than 15 yards out...............................
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby BBK » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:35 pm

hamernhonkers wrote:Yesterday and today for the little 20 that can't.



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How did you get that duck in the middle to smile for the camera?
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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby hamernhonkers » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:32 pm

BBK wrote:
hamernhonkers wrote:Yesterday and today for the little 20 that can't.



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How did you get that duck in the middle to smile for the camera?


I told him a real funny joke about some guys on this forum who think the 12 is the only gun capable of killing ducks. It cracked him up.


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Re: The 20 can almost do it all

Postby BBK » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:36 pm

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

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