On the X wrote:Frank Lopez wrote:
I've asked the man three times to put up or shut up. He's done neither. Every bit of evidence with these loads is contrary to his claims. To Yuchi's comment that two others have tested and posted their results, I'd add at least one other member, besides myself, has also patterned and analyzed these loads and also have come up with the same results. And Yuchi's suggestion that Hevi Metal is nothing but a high priced spreader load is pretty much on the mark. And as for the company's advertising, calling it BS is being kind. Given their past history, it's best to remember "caveat emptor".
Plainly put, the guy is a paid shill for EMI products. The evidence lies in that every one of his posts is a blatant commercial announcement for an EMI product!
Now, you have a nice day.
This is a really simple question so it will probably go right over the top.... but who are you or a person going by Yuchi ,to demand something from someone going by Rebel....on the internet? Every bit of evidence is NOT contrary to his claims. I have formed my own opinions with this loading and I did it with MY evidence. You call him a "paid Shill", is SPatrick not the same? But SP bends for you all to an extent so you except him, no offence intended to SPatrick. But Rebel doesn't so y'all try your best to gang up and bully, not much of a gang though, more like children.
Dude, Shaun is the only EMI representative that has been straightforward and candid with his positions and opinions as well as disclosures. We've vehemently disagreed on a couple of things but still managed to respect each other, at the end of the day.
This rebelcj7, wingseeker, et. al. on the other hand, only offer their Pavlovic regurgitations each and every time an EMI product is mentioned. After the 47th time, they start to have a detrimental effect on the product(s) they are pimping as a reasonable person would likely have doubt in placing creedence in the utterances of someone so (IMO) obtuse.
As far as EMI goes, I was one of the original "BETA" test bunch (over on WF.com) back in ~1998 that field tested some of the original EMI Hevi Shot, the "good" stuff. I still have a couple of those (translucent Cheddite roll-crimped hulls) shotshells in the gun safe, just for posterity. That product, along with the same when Remington was loading it (under license) and then the original Hevi Steel was the real deal when it came to killing waterfowl!
The marketing behavior of EMI subsequent to those products are where eyebrows started being raised. The alleged "mis-labelling" of product (HS "Goose", HS "Duck", et. al.) and now, labelling a "new" product with the "old" verbiage when it now appears (per Shaun's info) it is not the same has (IMO) done more harm to the company's reputation than can be repaired effectively. The sad thing is that it appears to be self-inflicted as simple disclosure(s) of what's really in play would have kept the original marketing culture well and working.
Even with all that, I also plan on purchasing a sample of this new product and running it against regular steel shotshells to see how things pan out. I just hope it doesn't turn out to be another gimmick like BS & BC product.
Now, I sincerely hope you feel better about all this as with you having registered 10 days ago and then charging in like the hockey team's enforcer to rescue poor Reb from your apparently percieved wrongdoing, is a little bit over the top and mildly suspicious, to say the least.