Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

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Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby hamernhonkers » Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:45 pm

So for you gents who like this load, tell me what you are finding as far as how they are doing for you on the pattern board and in the field?

I decided to order a couple of cases while they were still at a reasonable price and they arrived today. I might just have enough time to take some out and put on paper this evening but thought it would be nice to get some others takes on the lighter faster load from Federal. So for anyone who cares to share I would appreciate your thoughts on them :thumbsup:
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby Nelliboy2 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:23 pm

They are a good load. But VERY dirty


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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby mjk » Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:36 pm

Been using them for a few years, good load. Best to run the #3s at that speed, I believe. I know there is also a 1.25oz load at around 1400fps.
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby baltz526 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:00 pm

Cut one open and take a picture of all the stuff in it. It would be interesting to see the currant ingredients and to get a look at the pellets.
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby hamernhonkers » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:07 pm

First Baltz here are the guts for ya :thumbsup: Also sorry for the pic, I don't own a macro lens for my camera.

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The shot is not polished but it is round and uniform in size, the powder looks like a ball powder and was sticking in the bottom of the hull, the wad??? I have been out of the loading game for to long to say for sure what it might be and I counted 169 pellets in the shell I cut open.

Now for a look at the patterns. I unfortunately forgot my box of tubes so all I could shoot was 5 patterns with a Carlson .715 tube. I initially was not liking what I was seeing until I got home and marked them up and counted the holes. I am still not sure I like how they were printing and will go back out with the .705 and see what it dose.

Here is a sample of the patterns.

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I also realized I had a couple of Fiocchi 3 1/2" 1 9/16 #1 shot loads sitting in the truck so I put 3 rounds of them on paper. As this is more of a out to 40 or 45 yard goose load for me I was actually quite pleased with the patterns with them.

Here is a sample of the Fiocchi load

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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby BT Justice » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:27 am

Interesting their using a Ball type powder instead of the flake STEEL types.
Usually ball powders burn clean, wonder why its so dirty as was posted.
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby z51 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:53 am

They do burn dirty and so does the 1 1/4 oz load. The Expert 1550 load burns quite clean.
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby Bug Doc » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:18 am

hamernhonkers wrote:

Now for a look at the patterns. I unfortunately forgot my box of tubes so all I could shoot was 5 patterns with a Carlson .715 tube. I initially was not liking what I was seeing until I got home and marked them up and counted the holes. I am still not sure I like how they were printing and will go back out with the .705 and see what it dose.


It's funny how a pattern that looks crappy at the range transforms into a thing of beauty once it's marked up. That 40 yard pattern is pretty darn good for steel. :thumbsup:
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby hamernhonkers » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:56 am

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Now for a look at the patterns. I unfortunately forgot my box of tubes so all I could shoot was 5 patterns with a Carlson .715 tube. I initially was not liking what I was seeing until I got home and marked them up and counted the holes. I am still not sure I like how they were printing and will go back out with the .705 and see what it dose.


It's funny how a pattern that looks crappy at the range transforms into a thing of beauty once it's marked up. That 40 yard pattern is pretty darn good for steel. :thumbsup:


Ya know Doc I think I just have higher expectations from loads just because of all the patterning of HW and Hevi shot. But you are correct for steel they really are not bad patterns.

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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby baltz526 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:34 am

The wad is a good one, As I expected. The quality of the pellets is what I was most interested in and they look pretty good to me. I prefer #2 steel in the 3" 1 1/8oz loadings in factory shells. But here we get a lot of wide open space shooting with wind.
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby mudpack » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:04 pm

That load is no better and no worse than any other brand, in any other loading. They'll all work at short to medium ranges.
Finding a load that produces an effective pattern at ranges over 35 yards is where the homework comes in.
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby Bug Doc » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:29 pm

hamernhonkers wrote:Ya know Doc I think I just have higher expectations from loads just because of all the patterning of HW and Hevi shot. But you are correct for steel they really are not bad patterns.

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Yup, it's easy to get spoiled by tungsten shot. It's a simple thing to get good 30" patterns stretching from 30 to 50 yards with tungsten, but tough with steel. Physics can be a cruel mistress... :hammer:
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby hamernhonkers » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:27 pm

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hamernhonkers wrote:Ya know Doc I think I just have higher expectations from loads just because of all the patterning of HW and Hevi shot. But you are correct for steel they really are not bad patterns.

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Yup, it's easy to get spoiled by tungsten shot. It's a simple thing to get good 30" patterns stretching from 30 to 50 yards with tungsten, but tough with steel. Physics can be a cruel mistress... :hammer:



I hear ya. Glad I am not stuck shooting only steel for the next 20 or 25 years :wink:
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby Beretta06 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:47 pm

I've been shooting the federal premium in the orange box since they came out till the last 2 years when I started reloading again. The speedshok in the blue box has been on the market for a long time. I have shot the blue box and it is dirty but so is the premium. Pretty much all federal steel loads are dirty including black cloud. Which at our club tends to be a joke. That it's really the unburnt powder that gets in your eyes that gave federal the idea for the name. If you shoot federal steel and use an auto be prepared to tear the gun down and clean every 3 to 4 boxes.


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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby 10gaOkie » Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:14 pm

Its a shame that Federal discontinued the Ultra Shok, much better patterns than the Speed Shok. I think they signed off on the wrong one.

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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby Beretta06 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:18 pm

Chris I'm betting they didn't want their own premium round competing with the other premium round (Black Cloud). I agree red box was much better than blue box. Premium hulls are much stronger when reloading aswell.

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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby 10gaOkie » Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:27 pm

Most of my experience is with the 10ga red box and blue box shells. I have shot a little of the 12ga though. I didnt know that about the 12ga hulls. I have been looking online for some of the red box in 20ga. The only ones that have surfaced so far are the #1s at Rogers. Good info about the hull diff.

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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby Beretta06 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:15 pm

Yeah you can load them the same but you have to be real carfull on the crimp finish adjustment the lighter plastic of the blue box tends to buckle if you finish crimp with a single stroke. You can jack the lever up and down and it helps as you finish. At least on my Steel master and 600 jrs for the shorter stuff.

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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby rem1100pro » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:48 pm

I think they work great on ducks though I personally don't shoot 3 shot on the birds I shoot. The shells pattern very good through most choke tubes but I do think the 1 1/4s pattern better. They work good with the PM (wad stripper) chokes when some of the premium shells will not. The pricing on these shells have to be the best value for duck hunting and I don't think a different shell is going to bag a significant number more ducks.
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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby 10gaOkie » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:35 pm

At the beginning of this past season, I bought a case of Rem Nitro Steel 2 3/4" 1 1/8oz #2s. They turned out to be a very good patterning load from the few patterns I have shot with them. I got them from Rogers but I think they are all gone now. Rogers still has in stock their 20ga Ultra shot 10z 20ga load of #1s. I am trying to get an order off for a case of those soon. I have never been a fan of #3s though. If I am going to shoot the smaller shot, I go with 4s. I have not been a fan of the Speed Shoks either.

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Re: Federal Speed Shok 1550 1 1/8 oz #3 loads

Postby slowshooter » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:02 am

rem1100pro wrote:I think they work great on ducks though I personally don't shoot 3 shot on the birds I shoot. The shells pattern very good through most choke tubes but I do think the 1 1/4s pattern better. They work good with the PM (wad stripper) chokes when some of the premium shells will not. The pricing on these shells have to be the best value for duck hunting and I don't think a different shell is going to bag a significant number more ducks.


Speed Shok #3s have put a lot of ducks on the strap for me. I prefer the Kents because they aren't filthy. But then, even though the Feds are dirty - I haven't had any problems with them cycling through an auto on any hunt at all. I just hate cleaning up after them. I do hate the stinky funk when they fire though.

The best combos for me were the Nova with a LM Seminole or a Baikal MP153 using a factory or Carlson IC.

Oddly enough I have a long distance PM choke that just couldn't hold them together in the Nova... But did fine in an SBE.
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