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LS2 36 recipe

Postby Jon Bergren » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:38 pm

I'm loading this recipe with 1 oz of steel 3's to use next fall. My Pastor Son killed three drake mallards in one shot with this load then completed his mallard limit with the 2nd and 3rd shot. It's became his favorite load. Ned S
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby steelshotshooter » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:31 pm

What is an LS2 36 recipe?
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby goosepit2007 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:41 pm

steelshotshooter wrote:What is an LS2 36 recipe?


steelshotshooter,

that is the rio hull 1oz load that i gave you in the private message going 1646 fps using asteel powder and band p wad
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby steelshotshooter » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:40 pm

Gotcha! :thumbsup:
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby Jon Bergren » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:30 am

It will penetrate to kill to 56 yds at sea level and 32F, great load for over decoy shooting. Ned S
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby 3200 man » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:12 am

But , set-up your decoys a little closer than Jon and that load will work really well ! ........Just kidding Ned ! :lol3: :lol3:

I hope you and yours are doing well , Jon ? Thanks for your time . :hi:
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby goosepit2007 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:29 am

91118-1577 rio 23/4 hull Rio-209 Steel 37.0 PT1265 1oz Steel #3 7800psi 1395

120517-3906 rio 23/4 hull Rio-209 Steel 37.0 PT1260 + 18FW20 7/8oz Steel #7-#6 8000psi 1410


loads above is data from balistic products with vp wads for reference...same hull as the ls2 manual but has hotter rio primer then the ls2 manual which has ched 209, and ls2 manual is using b and p wad and slightly differrent powder charge.



ned,

when you swaped the vp wads in place of the b and p wads what fps did you get when you used to use the rio primers and powder(which tad more) per ls2 manual. I can not see even with the powder charge when keep it the same as ls2 manual to get up to the 1646fps. which you can achieve with the ls2 manual wad and powder charge with ched209 primer.

just wondering when you just subbed the wad, did you recheck the fps with just the sub of the vp wad? or is ballistic products off that much for fps?
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby Jon Bergren » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:06 am

Never checked the velocity with the VP60 shotcups. Ned S
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby Jim Atlas » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:47 pm

I'll put my money on BPI being off with those loads. Never loaded them, but it just doesn't seem consistent with all the data out there
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby goosepit2007 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:14 pm

Jim Atlas wrote:I'll put my money on BPI being off with those loads. Never loaded them, but it just doesn't seem consistent with all the data out there


got some vp wads to load and shoot over chrony? if i had some i would check those wads in rio hulls.

i know in the rsi data the vp wads are slower for fps with the same amount of powder...that was 2 years ago when i tested vp wads...
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby grnhd » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:00 pm

I've loaded those wads in Rio hulls(thanks 3200!) but didn't use Rio primers I used Cheddite. I don't remember if I run any of them over the chrony, I'd have to check my notes, but that 1oz load killed the snot out of ducks in that hull. I could run a couple of my chrony if you want even though I don't have any Rio primers if that will help.
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby goosepit2007 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:32 pm

if have time that would be of some help so we no that the wad swap is ok or not good deal...well for fps wise...i would if i had the wads on hand..

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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby 3200 man » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:18 am

Those Rio hulls are good for larger shot sizes too ! I've used the Rio primer in these hulls and found , I had to reduce
the powder charge , by starting out with 3 grs less and working my way up , I didn't get far , as ONE grain more put me in
the sweet spot with this load !
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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby goosepit2007 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:33 pm

here is the test for ned, with sub of vp wads in ls2 manual 1oz loads.

First off i put powder in rio hull, same as if using bnpwads 24 1oz wad, but wad was too high so trimmed down to first line on top of wads, but 438 grains was way to much yet. so took wad out put in 37 grains of asteel, put wad back in hull. was using 3 steel shot. ended up with 430 grain of steel for good crimp depth. which was at 1/16 of inch depth. so ended up with the following load:

Rio 23/4inch hulls
ched209 primer
37 grains of asteel powder
vp-60 wad
430 grains of 3 steel shot


ned wanted 835 so i took my bbl extension out and got it back down to 28 inches with flush full choke.
was shot at 7 feet readings from f1 chrony.
1)1469(1539fps)at muzzle
2)1445(1515 fps)
3)1446(1516fps)
4)1443(1513)
5)1449fps(1519)

after seing those speeds with vp-60 wad.

I decided to load up 3 the same but with b andp 32 wad(did not have any bnp 1oz wads), and shot from same shotgun.
7 feet readings same as first test.
1)1516 fps(1586 at muzzle)
2)1525(1595)
3)1520(1590fps)

after doing that test i went to truck got my sx2 with 26 inch bbl and did same test all over again(same load as above).
7 feet readings:
vp wad
1)1581fps(1651fps at muzzle)
2)1584(1654)
3)1592 fps(1662)
deffently sealed better in the backbored bbl then in the 835 bbl.

b and p 32 wad

1)1625fps(1695)
2)1619fps(1689)
3)1615 fps(1685)


after doing that i had some other loads that i have not tested but have been shooting snows with this spring:

win 23/4 inch white base experts hulls
win209
38.5 grains
1oz of shot (3's)
bnp 32 wad
osc(punched from 24 pack pop cartons
hot glue over crimp area


tested out of the sx2 26 inch extended improved mod choke

7 feet from muzzle readings
1) 1579(1649 fps)
2)1573 (1643)
3)1585 fps(1655fps)

one not is that the vp wads did not fare well out of the mossberg 835 at all. one of the wads all i could find was two of the petal and that was it. they did look better out of the wincehster sx2(as you will see it on top of picture that will be posted. and the bnp 32 wads are on the bottom of picture alot better looking after leaving the bbl of 835.

hope this helps you out Ned!!


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Re: LS2 36 recipe

Postby Jon Bergren » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:42 pm

Thanks for the info. I still have 400 of the TUWBL28 shotcups. Ned S
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