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Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby quailhunter123 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:47 pm

I have been doing some research on 10 gauge ammo and found two main prospects: Hevishot hevimetal and Remington Nitro Steel. I picked these two because they offer a large payload (1-3/4 oz) at 1300 fps (hevimetal) and 1260 (Remington) what one of the two would you recommended for shooting #2s at divers. (And yes price is a issue). Also of a Ithaca Mag 10 Remmy Sp 10 and a spanish double what gun would you recomend.
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby C M Wings » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:53 pm

No need to shoot a 10 if you're not going to shoot big shot like BBB or bigger. 12 gauge 1 1/8 of 1s or 2s will kill any duck. Where the 10 shines is with the big shot. Sure, more payload with the small shot, but just not necessary. My opinion. Your mileage may vary.

As for the gun, it's really hard to beat an SP10. There are several on gunbroker all the time in the 800 range.

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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby goose_gunner » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:42 pm

There is no best load you got to get out and pattern your gun with your loads of choice on that note the rem load with 2s patterns amazing but runs out of juice really fast and hevi metal is hit or miss in most guns I like fed or estate ammo for factory ammo
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby Yuchi1 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:51 pm

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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby wjarrell » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:01 pm

I just bought a box of Estate BBB to pattern when I get my gun. I'll report back with my results.
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby TEN GAUGE BBB » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:26 pm

Yuchi1 wrote:http://www.rogerssportinggoods.com/federal-ammunition-federal-steel-premium-ultra-shock-gauge-p-351.html
I agree with Yuchi1, Federal makes some good ammo for the 10. If I was going to shoot #2's from my 10 this is what I would do. I could NOT get good patterns with Hevi Metal past 35 yards from any of my 10's (same thing with my 12's).
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby wjarrell » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:33 pm

TEN GAUGE BBB wrote:
Yuchi1 wrote:http://www.rogerssportinggoods.com/federal-ammunition-federal-steel-premium-ultra-shock-gauge-p-351.html
I agree with Yuchi1, Federal makes some good ammo for the 10. If I was going to shoot #2's from my 10 this is what I would do. I could NOT get good patterns with Hevi Metal past 35 yards from any of my 10's (same thing with my 12's).

That link is to Federal red box, I thought they discontinued the red box?
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby baltz526 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:19 pm

If I was forced to buy 10ga steel shot. I would find the best deal on federal or estate. Why use hyped up trash when standard high velocity steel in a federal hull is better anyway.. :fingerhead:
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby bassmaster624 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:30 pm

I never really found a factory load that I enjoy shooting out of the 10.i bought a reloader the same year I got my first 10.its paid for itself 10 times over.not as much in saving money but quality of loads.things have come along way since those days and i'am sure there are some good ones out there.
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby rebelcj7 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:51 am

I don't have a 10 gauge and only shot one a couple of times, so this is second hand information. With that said, a good friend of mine shoots the 10 and shoots Hevi Metal Fast and works good for him. :beer:
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby Yuchi1 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:56 am

wjarrell wrote:
TEN GAUGE BBB wrote:
Yuchi1 wrote:http://www.rogerssportinggoods.com/federal-ammunition-federal-steel-premium-ultra-shock-gauge-p-351.html
I agree with Yuchi1, Federal makes some good ammo for the 10. If I was going to shoot #2's from my 10 this is what I would do. I could NOT get good patterns with Hevi Metal past 35 yards from any of my 10's (same thing with my 12's).

That link is to Federal red box, I thought they discontinued the red box?


They did, however, Rogers still has some left in stock, as of last week.
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby 10gaOkie » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:12 pm

In the 20 plus years I have been reloading for and also shooting factory 10ga, I go with what I am the most successful with. I have tried in vain to make BB, BBB, T and TT work for me but the success is just not there. I have not given up on them but it looks pretty dim at this point as I am discusted with the performance in those sizes of shot in 10ga. Over the years, #1s have always gave me the best results. Now, no one offers a factory 10ga shell loaded with that size so that leaves only #2s.
If I were buying factory 10ga steel shot, I would go with #2s in these offerings... Estate 1 5/8oz #2s, Win Dryloc 1 3/8oz #2s or Federal Ulta shok 1 1/2oz #2s. These would be my choices for using on 40 to 55 yard shots on both divers and big geese pass shooting. Depite being able to reload my shells, I still buy factory when the price is right. I still have two cases of Estate 1 5/8oz #1s on the shelf and two weeks ago, I bought a case of Dryloc Supreme 1 3/8oz #2s. I have two Browning Gold 10s, both with Briley .745 chokes. The SP10 would be my next choice. I would pass on the Mag10 and the spanish double. I would also pass on the 10ga H.S. and the Rem steel.

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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby don novicki » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:20 pm

Sporting Arms Ammo out of Michigan, it's what I shoot in my 32" barrel, full choke Mag 10. 1600FPS "T" shot, whack em and stack em...... :thumbsup:
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby baltz526 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:59 pm

10gaOkie wrote:In the 20 plus years I have been reloading for and also shooting factory 10ga, I go with what I am the most successful with. I have tried in vain to make BB, BBB, T and TT work for me but the success is just not there. I have not given up on them but it looks pretty dim at this point as I am discusted with the performance in those sizes of shot in 10ga. Over the years, #1s have always gave me the best results. Now, no one offers a factory 10ga shell loaded with that size so that leaves only #2s.
If I were buying factory 10ga steel shot, I would go with #2s in these offerings... Estate 1 5/8oz #2s, Win Dryloc 1 3/8oz #2s or Federal Ulta shok 1 1/2oz #2s. These would be my choices for using on 40 to 55 yard shots on both divers and big geese pass shooting. Depite being able to reload my shells, I still buy factory when the price is right. I still have two cases of Estate 1 5/8oz #1s on the shelf and two weeks ago, I bought a case of Dryloc Supreme 1 3/8oz #2s. I have two Browning Gold 10s, both with Briley .745 chokes. The SP10 would be my next choice. I would pass on the Mag10 and the spanish double. I would also pass on the 10ga H.S. and the Rem steel.

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I do load and shoot a fast 10ga 1 3/8oz and 1 1/2oz loads of steel #1. It is not as effective as the normal BBB load I shoot for geese. If the ducks start flying when I'm goose hunting. Its nice to have some #1's in my pocket.
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby 10gaOkie » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:08 pm

I have a consistant 90% pattern 1 1/2oz load of T shot at 50 yards on paper. However, does not give me the success that a good patterning load of #1s do.

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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby wjarrell » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:23 pm

wjarrell wrote:I just bought a box of Estate BBB to pattern when I get my gun. I'll report back with my results.

I didn't have much time today but I did get out and shot a couple patterns out of my new BPS. I shot the stock M with the Estate BBB and got 80% at 40 yards. I didn't try anything beyond that distance but I have plenty of time before next season.
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby justinduckman7 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:48 am

I have a browning lite gold 10 and I am running a patternmaster extended range tube with 13/4 Remington nitro steel in #BB and I achieve 90-100% patterns in a 30" circle at 50 yds . I am very happy with the performance . Shorter shot string and more dense pattern = more clean kills. I also have some old 15/8 federal # 1 that pattern just as well. I'm considering hand load my own to achieve the goal of as heavy as possible for oz of shot but try to bump speed to 1375-1425 in that range .
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby rainingmallards » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:31 am

The Hevimetal 10 gauge hits hard.....
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby TEN GAUGE BBB » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:26 pm

rainingmallards wrote:The Hevimetal 10 gauge hits hard.....
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby quailhunter123 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:51 pm

rainingmallards wrote:The Hevimetal 10 gauge hits hard.....

not the hevi shot boner boy again
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby JWG » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:28 pm

Anybody shoot the Remington Hypersoncis lately? Also anyone heard anything more about Sporting Ammo?
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby Theircommited10 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:20 pm

10gaOkie wrote:I have a consistant 90% pattern 1 1/2oz load of T shot at 50 yards on paper. However, does not give me the success that a good patterning load of #1s do.

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Hey Chris ,

I am interested in hearing your results . I've had my SP-10 for a couple of years now and am looking to find the best food for it this summer. Plan on doing a lot of leg work with shells and tubes to achieve that in the coming months .

I too have had pretty good results with # 1 steel also as a good all around choice for big ducks and decoying geese . However , friends of mine and folks on here insist BIG steel BBB .. T .. SHOT is where it's at with 10s .

I've never felt real confident shooting big honkers @ fringy / or 40 yds + with anything under size BB .
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby UmatillaJeff » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:36 pm

90% pattern of T's at 50 yards will drop every duck you shoot stone cold dead. I have no idea how your success with that load could be anything but awesome? If you can't kill every duck or goose you shoot at dead at 50 yards It isn't the load. They should have 4 T's in them at 50 yards and look like they got hit with a hand grenade.

If they do not...... I don't know what to tell you. That is what they look like when I shoot them at 50 yards.

They just stop living. Period...... Boom.. DEAD Just walk over and pick him up as the dog will not be needed with that one. That is my experience.

I have said it many times and I will say it again. You can't kill a duck any farther with a steel 2 in a 10ga then you can with a 12ga. 12ga guns have all the killing pattern you need to the effective range of steel 2's/

Shooting steel 2's in a 10ga is POINTLESS. Jeff
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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby Yuchi1 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:54 pm

quailhunter123 wrote:
rainingmallards wrote:The Hevimetal 10 gauge hits hard.....

not the hevi shot boner boy again


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Re: Best 10 Gauge Factory Waterfowl load

Postby Yuchi1 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:01 pm

UmatillaJeff wrote:90% pattern of T's at 50 yards will drop every duck you shoot stone cold dead. I have no idea how your success with that load could be anything but awesome? If you can't kill every duck or goose you shoot at dead at 50 yards It isn't the load. They should have 4 T's in them at 50 yards and look like they got hit with a hand grenade.

If they do not...... I don't know what to tell you. That is what they look like when I shoot them at 50 yards.

They just stop living. Period...... Boom.. DEAD Just walk over and pick him up as the dog will not be needed with that one. That is my experience.

I have said it many times and I will say it again. You can't kill a duck any farther with a steel 2 in a 10ga then you can with a 12ga. 12ga guns have all the killing pattern you need to the effective range of steel 2's/

Shooting steel 2's in a 10ga is POINTLESS. Jeff


Back in the late 1980's when transferred to Oklahoma, I had a local g'smith open up a 12 gauge 870WM magnum's 30" FULL barrel to IM. It patterned the 3" Federal load at 100% for 40 yards and ~85% out to 50 and did (to ducks) exactly what you were speaking about. Like an idjit, I later sold it while living in Nebraska.

With numbered pellets, it was nowhere close to the patterns with T shot and my misguided rationale for selling it, at the time.
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