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Steel Dove load

Postby rustychev » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:34 am

Dose any one have a good 1 or 1/18oz dove load

I would like to use Rio hulls as my first choice and AA or Rem as a second I would also like something that dose not use steel powder so I can do it on my 650. I would also like to see speeds of 1450 or better. I found a load for the Rios in the back of LS but it uses steel powder and with 3 of us hunting doves this year it could be a lot of shells.

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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby Joe Hunter » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:31 pm

rusty -- RSI lists some 12ga 7/8- and 1-oz steel loads with 800-X and 4756. I loaded some of the 7/8-oz 800-X WAA hull load several years ago and they seemed to work just fine. There's no real need for any more than 1-oz loads and I would go with #6 steel in these for dove.

Now-a-days, I just get Xpert steel loads for about $6/box and shoot them when I'm needing steel dove, teal or target loads.

Here are a few of my pattern numbers to give you an idea of the kind of performance you might get with 1 oz steel loads. Pattern results from a 12ga Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels and Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell pellet count average of five).

12 GA 2 3/4" WINCHESTER XPERT STEEL LOAD
1 oz #6 steel (306 pellets) @ 1,325 fps
30 YARDS – SK / pattern 234 (76%)
30 YARDS – IC / pattern 261 (85%)
40 YARDS – M / pattern 222 (73%)
40 YARDS – F / pattern 229 (76%)

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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby rustychev » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:36 pm

I ha e been using the expert the last few years but would like somethingcloser to my duck loads as far as speed
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby rustychev » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:37 pm

I have been using the expert the last few years but would like something closer to my duck loads as far as speed
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby derbyacresbob » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:58 pm

I also want to reload some 7/8 oz or 1 oz Steel shot dove loads. I just ordered a new Status of Steel manual from BPI.

I checked Hodgdon's load data and they show some loads for Universal powder in Rem STS and Federal Gold Medal hulls. The loads with Universal powder show pretty high pressure at 1250 to 1300 fps.

Alliant's load data shows duck or goose loads burning too much Steel Powder for dove loads.

Hopefully the Status of Steel will have some loads with SR4756 powder. I would think that 1350 to 1400 fps should be plenty of speed for steel dove loads.
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby Theduckguru » Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:28 pm

Trouble is many of the non Steel powder loads ar IMR powder, which is being discontinued.
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby wildflights » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:38 pm

Ballistic Products has a sheet titled "MG42 12ga Cushioned Wad #LD12MG42081205".
This has quite a few loads using the MG42/STS wad in Federal PB and GM, Remington STS, Fiocchi and Cheddite/Multi Hulls.
Loads from 3/4 to 1-1/16 oz using primarily non-ASTEEL powders. Bluedot Herco Longshot SR4756 SR7625 HS6 HS7 Universal. There's even a 3/4 oz steel load using Greendot and another one using Unique.

Remington STS, Longshot, 1 oz. steel shot, @ 1400 fps/10,600 psi.
Federal PB, Longshot 1-1/16 oz steel @ 1535 fps/11,500 psi
Also a couple Federal hulls using SR4756 , 1 oz steel @ 1325 fps to 1445 fps.
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby derbyacresbob » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:01 pm

Thanks wildflights for the information!
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby steelshotshooter » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:45 pm

Here is a load for Remington hulls -

HULL: 12 ga - 2 3/4" - Remington STS

PRIMER: Win. 209

POWDER: Longshot / 26.0 gr.

WAD: MG42

SHOT: 1 oz. steel

VELOCITY: 1,400 fps.

PRESSURE: 10,600 psi

COMMENTS: #6 steel shot makes for a good dove load out to 40-45 yds. - depending on choke...

Since the MG42 wads come pre-molded with 2 petals, so you won't have to spend time cutting petals in these wads....
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby d_money » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:46 pm

The 1450fps unique load is great. I have shot it with 3's for ducks and it works good. I bet it would make a great dove load. Patterns super good.
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby wildflights » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:43 pm

d_money wrote:The 1450fps unique load is great. I have shot it with 3's for ducks and it works good. I bet it would make a great dove load. Patterns super good.

Assuming this is an MG42 load. I'm not seeing a 1450fps unique load. There is a 3/4 oz @ 1270 fps and a 7/8 @1350 fps. What's your load data source?
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby Jarbo03 » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:46 pm

I also recommend the MG42 wads, BPI has a 1 oz load at 1570 using Longshot
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby d_money » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:56 pm

It's on bpi site in there steel shot target loads. Looks like they del the 1450fps load. If u look on there site they have a 7/8 oz load going 1390. There used to be another one above it that said 24gr and everything else the same. I have also seen a few loads bouncing around other forums with anything between 23-26.5gr with several different wads with unique powder.
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby BT Justice » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:32 am

Since most of the dove shooting is going to be in warmer weather, best bet might be to try using either SR4756 or STEEL powder loads. Don't forget most of these loads aren't made for hot weather shooting, both STEEL and 4756 are fairly stable in most temperatures, Longshot is fairly stable in the cold but using loads in the 11,000 psi range in warmer weather might not be the wisest choice especially with as sensitive Longshot is to any change.
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby Jon Bergren » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:42 am

Nothing wrong with using STEEL 7/8 oz loads and steel 6's. I use them from LS2 recipes. I also use this load for dove and teal. Ned S
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby steelshotshooter » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:44 am

There are a lot of Blue Dot loads, and that would be my preferred powder for dove loads, because they work great when it's hot in September, and still provide more than enough velocity when the weather cools down or turns cold....
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby rustychev » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:08 pm

Jon Bergren wrote:Nothing wrong with using STEEL 7/8 oz loads and steel 6's. I use them from LS2 recipes. I also use this load for dove and teal. Ned S

You are correct but I would like to load it on my 650 so steel is a no go. But I did see a lot of loads I liked in LS but they do tend to use a lot of powder
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Re: Steel Dove load

Postby BT Justice » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:17 am

rustychev wrote:
Jon Bergren wrote:Nothing wrong with using STEEL 7/8 oz loads and steel 6's. I use them from LS2 recipes. I also use this load for dove and teal. Ned S

You are correct but I would like to load it on my 650 so steel is a no go. But I did see a lot of loads I liked in LS but they do tend to use a lot of powder

Then use SR 4756 if you don't want to use STEEL. I would shy away from Blue Dot just for the fact in hot weather I have had a few problems with Blue Dot going overpressure in some loads. RSI lists plenty of 4756 loads and they work fairly well.
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