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Open to any ideas.

Postby hamernhonkers » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:16 pm

First I got to give credit to Carlson's choke tubes. I messed up my order and accidentally ordered a MOD tube instead of a skeet tube. The fixed me up with no issue and got a skeet tube sent out to me asap. There a great company to deal with and have a quality product !


Now for the patterns. I give up. The 3 shot is just large for the 28. I am still getting very clumpy patterns even with very little constriction. I've tried slow and fast and open. I just am not winning. If any one has any other ideas I am all ears.

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I guess it just will be 4 and 5 shot at a max 35 for steel. :(

Hey I gave it he'll though.
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Re: Open to any ideas.

Postby BT Justice » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:17 am

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Postby hamernhonkers » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:23 am

BT Justice wrote:Grandpa told me one time "It's a lot easier to haul lumber in a Pick Up truck than a Volkswagen"
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I am afraid grandpa is right. But hey it's been fun trying!
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Re: Open to any ideas.

Postby Jon Bergren » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:43 am

At 1465 fps 3's will penetrate to kill to 48.5 yds, 4's to 45.1 yds and 5's to 41.7 yds. Go with the 4's or 5's they will do the job for you. 6's will even work as they go to 38.4 yds. Ned S
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Re: Open to any ideas.

Postby shoveler_shooter » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:54 pm

Trying a load with a slower velocity is the first thing I can think of...no idea if it would improve the issue you are having though.
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Re: Open to any ideas.

Postby Rob MacK » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:31 am

Well the only thing i can think of is buffer. I know that typically its used with large shot but with the small bore diameter of the 28 perhaps it would help. In my limited experience with buffer its a hit and miss proposition so it won't tke long to see if it works.

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Postby C M Wings » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:52 am

Rob - play with buffer, speed, crimp, wad, and powder to your heart's content - then shoot the #4s. My 2 cents is that shooting what a gun likes is far more important than being up or down a size in shot. Pattern density is key, and your #4 patterns are envious.

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Re: Open to any ideas.

Postby z51 » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:00 am

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Re: Open to any ideas.

Postby Rob MacK » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:31 am

C M Wings wrote:Rob - play with buffer, speed, crimp, wad, and powder to your heart's content - then shoot the #4s. My 2 cents is that shooting what a gun likes is far more important than being up or down a size in shot. Pattern density is key, and your #4 patterns are envious.

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I hear ya. Its happened to me that way as well with 1s in the 12 ga. I ended up shooting Bs. Buffer is the only other option and it likely wont be easy but hey i understand the sickness i suffer from it too.....lol
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Postby topcat » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:10 pm

I have only loaded a couple of loads for my son when he was starting out.I used an oz of #3's @ 1450 fps (12 gauge) with PR zinc plated steel,which looked perfectly round like ball bearings.This produced an extremely even quality pattern that out performed most of the 1 1/8 oz factory loads I had tried. Maybe some rounder shot may help?
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Re: Open to any ideas.

Postby lostknife4 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:16 pm

Here we go.... Ya can't have it both ways with this, however using 5/8 ox of #8 TSS will give you not only more range but better centre density with a more open choke and the gel penetration and velocity at range that you won't get with any other lesser mass pellets and using a 1350 MV.
Make a comparison table in KPY and then take it to the patterning board and you will see.
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Re: Open to any ideas.

Postby hamernhonkers » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:17 pm

Bill I am not looking to have it both ways just looking for the best "Cheap" close range combo. I just don't see the need to shoot my high density stuff under 40 yards if something else will work just fine. :thumbsup:
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Re: Open to any ideas.

Postby lostknife4 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:44 am

I agree with your philosophy and in fact use Steel whenever conditions warrant it but my Go-To is TSS, usually the last one or two loads in the gun, Steel being the first one or two shots.
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