3.5" vs. 3" shells

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3.5" vs. 3" shells

Postby DirtMover » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:27 am

So I've only been here about 3 weeks but have done alot of looking and researching. It seems to me that everyone is shooting 3" rather than the 3.5" shells for most of their hunting.

Now don't get me wrong I know that 3" is plenty sufficient to hunt ducks and probably geese so my question is this.

I their an actual advantage to the 3" over the 3.5" outside of cost?

i.e. pattern better? Most only have 3" capable guns?
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Postby Ned S » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:30 am

Recoil. Ned S
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Postby donttreadonme » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:54 am

Ned S wrote:Recoil. Ned S


+1

That and I get just as many pellets in a 40" circle @ 40 yds with a 3" 1 1/8 oz. load.
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Postby treatcg » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:51 am

For some weird reason, I shoot better with 3".
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Postby Ned S » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:21 pm

Brezny thinks the 3" 1 1/8 oz load is the best for everything. Ned S
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Postby ddragon47 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:41 pm

treatcg wrote:For some weird reason, I shoot better with 3".

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Postby atwoodflash » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:25 pm

In my opinion I would sticj with a 3" over a 3 1/2" any day
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Postby BADDUCK » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:10 pm

The way I look at it, if you don't need a 10 gauge you don't need 3 1/2" shells. However, I like having the capability for large geese. Federal Ultra Shoks with 1 1/2 oz of large shot at 1500 FPS is a hell of a Canadian buster.
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Postby DirtMover » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:49 pm

Thanks for the replies.

Hadn't given a whole lot of thought to the additional recoil but that is a good point.

That added to the additional cost may convince me to go back to 3" after I shoot up about 7 boxes of 3.5".

Anyone want to go the other way and pipe up in favor of the 3.5"?
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Postby apexhunter » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:40 pm

Not me...unless you reload, for the extra $ that 3 1/2" shells cost you can step up to any of the "fancy" shot shells (Hevi, Bismuth, BC, etc- choose your poison) and get the same if not better results with 3"...not to mention the fact that your shoulder will appreciate it at the end of the day.
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Postby DoubleDutchChuck » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:28 pm

Myself, I just don't need or require 3 1/2" loads to kill ducks or geese.
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Postby MD Duckbuster » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:21 pm

I weigh about 175 and have never noticed the recoil from most 3 1/2 shells. The Kent Fasteel 1625s kick like hell, but the rest are no problem. My son goes about 150 and can shoot 3 1/2s with no problem out of his Xtrema II with kick-off. I did notice the recoil while patterning in the summer with a t-shirt, but while hunting, I guess I'm too jacked up to notice.

I recall a study that evaluated pattern density and pellet energy. Very few steel loads passed. I think most that did were 3 1/2" #3 loads.
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Postby slothman » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:24 pm

Who shoots 2.75" shells instead? I did for a long time for all types of game.
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Postby njonesy_07 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:39 pm

I personally like the 3". I only have a 3" gun but I have shot the 3 1/2 a few times. Its not bad at all, but I wouldn't want to pay the money for the ammo bill. 3" gets it done for me...enough said.
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Postby Fowler » Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:24 am

When I was a kid I started with 2 3/4 and killed ducks, I have since gone the full spectrum from 3 1/2 12's to 10 gauges. I am back to a 3 inch 12 now for all my duck hunting, most of which is sea ducks. Don't get me wrong, I loved the 10 and it was a deadly duck weapon. I have just found that if I go back to the basics of shooting ducks over decoys in appropriate ranges I can kill ducks dead on the water with 3 inch steel shot just fine.
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Postby Sagebrush » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:46 pm

I reload 2 3/4" hulls for ALL of my duck hunting.

1oz at 1550 or 1 1/8oz at 1475 is all that I need, to put
ducks on my table.


I do buy Factory 3" BB's for the geese though.

That is so I don't run out of my # 2 Bismuth 2 3/4" loads, that
I shoot out of my Browning A-5.
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Postby DirtMover » Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:46 pm

It seems pretty unanimous.

Thanks for the replies.
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Postby Ducks4Life14 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:43 pm

To me all 31/2inch shells mean are more recoil, and a few more pellets. but they are freakin awesome for those big honkers :thumbsup:
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Re: 3.5" vs. 3" shells

Postby flyxpl » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:01 pm

DirtMover wrote:So I've only been here about 3 weeks but have done alot of looking and researching. It seems to me that everyone is shooting 3" rather than the 3.5" shells for most of their hunting.

Now don't get me wrong I know that 3" is plenty sufficient to hunt ducks and probably geese so my question is this.

I their an actual advantage to the 3" over the 3.5" outside of cost?

i.e. pattern better? Most only have 3" capable guns?


I just can not seem to hit the birds with 3.5 shells out of a 12 gauge.With a small amount of pattern test with 3 verses 3.5 shells I found the 3.5 shells seemed to have inconsistant uneven patterns compared to a 3 inch shell.
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Postby ohsay » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:35 pm

They have their place, just like 2 3/4 and 3" shells. I shoot mostly 3", but there are times when a 3.5" shell has a distinct advantage. I generaly don't suggest everyone shoot them, because an appropriate 3" shell will bring down any bird if choked and shot properly, and because a lot of shooters already have bad habits that a heavier recoil load will only magnify. In the right gun/choke, and the right shooter's hands a 3.5" shell can be a marvelous thing. I shoot a 1 1/2 oz 3.5" 12 load that nearly half the time I drop 2 birds with (46% currently). I don't shoot it as much anymore, but I load it for some friends who are big guys, have decent form, yet still don't shoot very well. Gives them a nice wide kiling pattern. It's undeniable that those extra pellets CAN be of benefit. Whether they ARE of benefit has more to do with the the shell, the choke, the gun, and the individual, than the fact that it's a bigger load.
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Re: 3.5" vs. 3" shells

Postby maggot275 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:38 pm

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Postby goosepit2007 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:59 pm

slothman wrote:Who shoots 2.75" shells instead? I did for a long time for all types of game.



90 percent of my shots at ducks and geese is with 23/4inch loads of 7/8 loads -11/8 loads. speeds 1860 fps-1525 fps

If a duck hunter ever tries a 23/4 inch steel load especially after shooting 31/2 inch loads all the time and actually does there home work with patterns ect, and the biggest part is actually know how far the birds are at for yardage. you will find out after while that they kill the ducks and geese just as dead and your follow up shots/sight picture is there for all 3 shots. some say i have no problems with 31/2 inch loads kicking ect.

i love those people when they come and hunt with us. i say why don't you try one of my reloads and shoot at water over there were stick is in water for aiming point. I hand them my shotgun with empty already fired hull in chamber, they pull the trigger and they jerk a good 3 to 6 inches, getting ready fore the recoil, all there was click. then they cycle the action everyone chuckles abit and then they shoot the 23/4 inch hull load. not all but some ask to try few for the next flock. some ask for the loads that i shoot right away. some take there time feeling tough and call later on and get them after they shot somemore 31/2 inch loads. but atleast 65 percent of those people comeback the next year with 3inch or 23/4inch reloads/factory loads.

just some food for thaught

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Re: 3.5" vs. 3" shells

Postby z51 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:47 am

OK, what Maggot drug this old thread from 2008 just to start an argument. Pay attention guys!
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Re: 3.5" vs. 3" shells

Postby mudpack » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:04 am

z51 wrote:OK, what Maggot drug this old thread from 2008 just to start an argument. Pay attention guys!

:lol3: :lol3:

Good one, z. :thumbsup:
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Re: 3.5" vs. 3" shells

Postby solway gunner » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:15 pm

have a look at the "fish hook article" pardon the pun from Maggots new old link :eek:
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