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cutting of keel

Postby Jake S » Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:12 pm

I am thinking about cutting of the weighted keel on some decoys so that they just have a flat bottom. some of the ponds I hunt have so much aquatic vegetation that even with a good breeze a decoy with a keel doesn't move at all. Has anyone done this and how well did it work for you?
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby Baymen Moe » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:50 pm

Chances are with vegatation that thick, keeless decoys probably wouldn't move much either. And a stiff breeze may blow them over. If I were you, I'd add a jerk srting to some of your decoys. Beats having cut up decoys you might need some day. If you really want to do it, buy a few dekes with removable keels.
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby Jake S » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:54 pm

I have 3 on a jerk string already, just trying to come up with something else to help with movement.
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby Nichkor7 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:14 pm

Floating mojo??


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Re: cutting of keel

Postby noweil » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:22 am

Suc duc style decoys like Herters used to make. Here are some pictures of my foam suc duc style decoys with no keel
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby noweil » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:42 am

It looks like The Decoy Factory still makes decoys like a suc duc.
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby scruggs12 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:00 am

In regards to decoys without keels, I have a question. I have the GHG Ringnecks and one of the keels snapped off between the weighted part and the slide into the actual decoy itself. Is there a way to rig something to put in there or leave it without? The water I hunt can be a little rough and don't want to loose an otherwise very nice decoy. I was thinking of maybe screwing something in with silicone and add as a weight, leaving it off, or see if I can buy a replacement keel.

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Re: cutting of keel

Postby Mean Gene » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:15 am

You can probably buy replacement keels. Try putting it back together with 5 minute epoxy and see how it goes.
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby jscheirer » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:28 am

Jake S: When you use the jerk string just it actually ripple the water? Or is the vegetation so thick that it doesn't even have water movement? If too thick it might not be worth it but you can play with it with an old decoy. Let us know how it works out.

Scruggs: Try the epoxy first on the existing keel. If that bond isn't strong or you want to go another route you can 1) try and find a factory replacement, 2) if worst comes to worst, take some 1 inch pvc pipe and fill it with sand and cap both ends. Then take doll rods thick enough to stay strong and not break and then affix it to the decoy. Good luck as well
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby Jake S » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:25 am

Suc Duck decoy type bottoms are a good idea, I really like those resting mallards.

the jerk string makes good movement, but I like to to have the decoys spread pretty far apart so it dose not put ripples through the whole spread, and I'm in pretty sparse cover so I have to use it carefully.

I am just trying to think of ways to put some old decoys to use
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby noweil » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:39 pm

scruggs12 wrote:In regards to decoys without keels, I have a question. I have the GHG Ringnecks and one of the keels snapped off between the weighted part and the slide into the actual decoy itself. Is there a way to rig something to put in there or leave it without? The water I hunt can be a little rough and don't want to loose an otherwise very nice decoy. I was thinking of maybe screwing something in with silicone and add as a weight, leaving it off, or see if I can buy a replacement keel.

Thanks,

How much of the piece that slides into to decoy is left? Is there enough there to lay a lead strap weight along side of it and drill a couple holes and bolt the the strap weight to what is left of the keel.
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby BigRiver » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:37 am

If it is legal get one of these...



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Or one of these...

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Re: cutting of keel

Postby scruggs12 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:44 pm

noweil wrote:
scruggs12 wrote:In regards to decoys without keels, I have a question. I have the GHG Ringnecks and one of the keels snapped off between the weighted part and the slide into the actual decoy itself. Is there a way to rig something to put in there or leave it without? The water I hunt can be a little rough and don't want to loose an otherwise very nice decoy. I was thinking of maybe screwing something in with silicone and add as a weight, leaving it off, or see if I can buy a replacement keel.

Thanks,

How much of the piece that slides into to decoy is left? Is there enough there to lay a lead strap weight along side of it and drill a couple holes and bolt the the strap weight to what is left of the keel.


Not a bad idea. The piece basically broke in half. I have been taking the keels from my wood duck decoys and interchanging them. I will try to figure something out. I appreciate the input.
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Re: cutting of keel

Postby mudpack » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:20 pm

Jake S wrote:I am thinking about cutting of the weighted keel on some decoys so that they just have a flat bottom. some of the ponds I hunt have so much aquatic vegetation that even with a good breeze a decoy with a keel doesn't move at all. Has anyone done this and how well did it work for you?

I cut the keels off several decoys. They work fine; the wind does not "blow them over". You can't just toss them out, however....
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