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buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby barnhill910 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:42 pm

Im looking to move up in the world before next year. I mostly hunt the coast of NC on pamlico and albemarle sounds. Im looking to get a boat a little more built for big water hunting something with a V hull to cut the waves. I have a 19 foot carolina skiff that we have been using but if the waves pick up its not that dry of a ride. Whatever I get needs to be somewhat of a muti purpose boat. I need a boat that I can run 2 layouts with 20+ doz decoys. Also need it to not draft much water to get us to our shoal blinds. Also I want to run a true NC scissor rig on the boat so I need alot of room for trees in the bow. I have been looking at privater boat works at there 2002 roomer skiff and putting twin 90's on it.

Specifications
Centerline - 20'2"
Beam - 7'10"
Cockpit depth aft - 21"
Freeboard aft - 24"
Draft - 7"
Maximum h.p. - 185
Minimum h.p. to plane - 35
Hand laid construction
Transom height - 20" std.
Fuel capacity - 41 gal. std.
External keel - 2"
Self-bailing moored
Wide non-skid washboards
Forward storage locker
Inner hull bilge pipe
Stable, dry, easy-planning


Any ideas on a boat that is comparable to this boat?
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby toolmaker » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:39 am

what do you need help with???????????

does the shear weight of the boat matter??? that privateer looks like a heavy boat....

the boat drafts 7" empty.....what about with 2, 90s( 4 strokes will weigh 380 lbs easily) on the back, your blind and gear and hunting buddies....now it drafts a FOOT! maybe more.

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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby Slack Tide » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:49 am

The Maritime Skiff with a little wheel house is a nice boat, lighter and cheaper than a Priv...but very similar
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby barnhill910 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:45 pm

toolmaker wrote:what do you need help with???????????

does the shear weight of the boat matter??? that privateer looks like a heavy boat....

the boat drafts 7" empty.....what about with 2, 90s( 4 strokes will weigh 380 lbs easily) on the back, your blind and gear and hunting buddies....now it drafts a FOOT! maybe more.

good luck

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The weight does not matter I like the way they are built. I'm not sure if the 7" is weighted or not. Some of the boats I have looked at in the past have a motor full tank and 400lbs inside.
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby barnhill910 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:49 pm

Slack Tide wrote:The Maritime Skiff with a little wheel house is a nice boat, lighter and cheaper than a Priv...but very similar
Nice boat and lots around


It looks like a nice boat but it drafts 12"
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby don novicki » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:24 pm

What about something like the Bankes Goliath. 25' ad says drafts 6-7" . Looks like a beast and would look good on those waters with a 150 or so.......just a thought :thumbsup:
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby trigger22 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:03 pm

Check out the Intruder by Pro Marine. He makes a 19 and a 23 foot. The 19 has a tunnel and runs super skinny. The 23 doesn't have the tunnel but still gets pretty shallow. Plenty shallow enough for the waters of Pamlico and Core Sound. They are very solid dry rides. They won't cut the water like a true V hull boat, but are much softer than a CS or Jones Brothers. I have the 19 and have room for 2 layouts all of my decoys and 3-4 men.
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby ncbufflehead » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:22 pm

you don't want a 20' privateer and if you get one, you damn sure don't want twin 90's on it.


i've had one and wouldn't own another if you gave it to me.
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby Strick9 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:13 pm

If you can locate a 23 interepid, no longer made, all your needs will be met. I hate myself for ever selling mine. They are light but not to light, cut waves and heavy chop like butter, operate great with low horsepower, have a simple but effect layout and a 12 inch while sitting and will run through 10 inches draft, . Excuse me while I wipe my tears away. A used 20 pathfinder would also do well.
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby barnhill910 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:23 am

ncbufflehead wrote:you don't want a 20' privateer and if you get one, you damn sure don't want twin 90's on it.


i've had one and wouldn't own another if you gave it to me.


What's wrong with the privateer the one I was looking at was the 2002 romer skiff. It looked to be a solid boat
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby Slack Tide » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:05 am

Privateer is a great boat...you can't go wrong...I think they are pretty heavy, well built but expensive too...
One of those guys mentioned the bigger water duck boats...I love those...
If you can swing it, you'd have a great tender, a great bay boat for summer and get some sea ducks in
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby ncbufflehead » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:38 pm

barnhill910 wrote:
ncbufflehead wrote:you don't want a 20' privateer and if you get one, you damn sure don't want twin 90's on it.


i've had one and wouldn't own another if you gave it to me.


What's wrong with the privateer the one I was looking at was the 2002 romer skiff. It looked to be a solid boat

the 2002 is the 20'. without a load of weight in the bow, they ride damn near as bad as a flat bottom. and that boat doesn't have enough room in it for 20 dozen decoys and two layouts or a real scissor rig. if you've already got a 19' carolina skiff, it won't be any improvement, in ride, dryness or stability.


not sure what these guys are comparing "heavy" to but IMO, that boat is pretty light
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby Slack Tide » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:53 pm

Take a ride up north!

http://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/3593005069.html


this thing looks NASTY
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby eburgsnake » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:52 pm

Slack Tide wrote:Take a ride up north!

http://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/3593005069.html


this thing looks NASTY



Sweeeeet boat. Wish I need one.
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby g_maxson » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:58 am

barnhill910 wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:The Maritime Skiff with a little wheel house is a nice boat, lighter and cheaper than a Priv...but very similar
Nice boat and lots around


It looks like a nice boat but it drafts 12"


Draft should never be mentioned in a big water tender.
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby trigger22 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:05 am

g_maxson wrote:
barnhill910 wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:The Maritime Skiff with a little wheel house is a nice boat, lighter and cheaper than a Priv...but very similar
Nice boat and lots around


It looks like a nice boat but it drafts 12"


Draft should never be mentioned in a big water tender.


In Eastern NC it needs to be...
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby g_maxson » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:34 pm

What kind of 'big water' are you hunting that is 1' deep? Won't be able to even run an outboard.



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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby toolmaker » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:18 pm

g_maxson wrote:What kind of 'big water' are you hunting that is 1' deep? Won't be able to even run an outboard.



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the sound off the NC coats has huge flats where duck hunting has been going on for decades!!!

it is very traditional.. but there is a LOT of open water... and there are deeper bays that need to be crosses to get to those flats.....

you need a boat that will run shallow but also handle a wicked , fast moving storm....

you dont want to walk the boat 1/4 mile across a flat thats 18" deep..... but you dont want a flatbottom jon boat when the rollers are over 3 -4 feet


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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby trigger22 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:21 pm

g_maxson wrote:What kind of 'big water' are you hunting that is 1' deep? Won't be able to even run an outboard.



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Pamlico Sound, and I run my outboard in 6-8 inches of water on a regular basis. That's what they make short shaft motors, jack plates and tunnel hulls for ;)

Some of the places we hunt with layout boats require us to traverse large open bodies of deep water (by deep I only mean 15-20 feet). We then have to cross over a shoal to get into the bay we want to hunt. There is usually only 10-12 inches of water on the shoal and once we get into the bay we will have 3-5 feet.

Our water is significantly different than the water you're used to on the Great Lakes.
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby jehler » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:50 am

yeah g-max, you'd never be able to kill ducks in NC :hi:
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby trigger22 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:29 am

jehler wrote:yeah g-max, you'd never be able to kill ducks in NC :hi:


Who said that? All he'd have to do is go to the honey hole and ask where to go and he'd be on birds in no time ;)
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby g_maxson » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:51 am

jehler wrote:yeah g-max, you'd never be able to kill ducks in NC :hi:


Never :)

When I've hunted Pamlico, we just ran straight out 10 miles and it was deep the whole way, but that was for scoter and I'm assuming you guys are hunting black heads near shore on the west side, or redheads and pinners on the east. So def a difference in boat needs. I was just looking at an 18degree boat the other day that I doubt would run in less than 3' of water, but then I'm dealing with 4' waves.
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby Dingbatter 2 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:44 am

Get the Titan and be done with it... :lol3:

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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby jehler » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:21 pm

Dingbatter 2 wrote:Get the Titan and be done with it... :lol3:

http://bankesboats.com/openwater.htm

I have looked at the titan, far as i can tell its not a self baler and it doesn't seem to have more than a couple of degrees of deadrise. hull looks like a 60's era whaler, for 25k i think it could be a little better
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Re: buying a new tender/big water boat need help

Postby dirtejp » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:49 pm

How about a 20 ft Chincoteague Scow by Glass Boat Works...

http://www.intercom.net/~boatwrks/chincoteague.htm

Works well up on the bays and shoals and back in the creeks on the Eastern Shore VA.
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