Long Line Spread?

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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby trigger22 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:51 am

I'll see what I can do. It may be a few days as my decoys are put up. I'll be getting my teal decoys out soon. Only 3 weeks till season
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby fowlplayx » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:24 am

Nice are goose season opens up here in ny for September as well 15 bird limit, ahhhhh big bags to fill lol
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby preacherdan » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:57 pm

What do yall use for a led pot, im a plumber and i have an old old old lead pot, but it will melt alot of lead in a hurry, i see. A buddy of mine had a little one but it looked like it couldnt handle more than a 16 oz pour, and i have seen te cupcake tray weights they work good
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby mobowhunter » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:28 pm

how much distance do you guys usually have between decoy clips?
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby Shade » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:39 am

trigger22 wrote:
Shade wrote:I buy my supplies from Seattle Marine Supply.

1 550ft roll of #120 Braided Tarred Line = $55



Yikes...... Memphis net is only $35 for 550 feet of #120 tarred



Yes, but I live near Seattle (no shipping cost) and this stuff is braided.
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby mobowhunter » Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:04 pm

Thanks.
We are thinking about using 18" drops as we do not use dogs on the river.
I was thinking about setting the decoys; cans, bluebills, ringnecks, redheads - about 6' between decoys.
I wanted to get a one line started out towards the main channel - about 200' feet away.
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby Shade » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:01 am

DKC wrote:Why use drops if you're not using a dog?


If you attach directly to the main-line.... Wouldn't you be limiting motion? In some good chop I am sure it wouldn't matter, but in a gentle current I would think that having drops would allow the decoys to move in the wind and/or current as the are designed to do.
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby mobowhunter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:41 pm

We tried to set it last year, running 45 degrees to the current without drops and we could not get it to work very good. I am hoping the drops give the dekes a little more freedom to move with the current and waves as the main line is sitting at an angle. We will probably go with smaller drops though, around 18".
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby Shade » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:02 pm

DKC wrote:
Shade wrote:
DKC wrote:Why use drops if you're not using a dog?


If you attach directly to the main-line.... Wouldn't you be limiting motion? In some good chop I am sure it wouldn't matter, but in a gentle current I would think that having drops would allow the decoys to move in the wind and/or current as the are designed to do.



Disagree;

Once the long line is set and the drops have their score, that's where they're going to sit.


I haven't noticed any difference. I have my surf scoter rigged without drops as we layout hunt exclusively with the scoter. On my bills I have drops as we will layout and blind hunt the bills. The only difference I've noticed is that without drops, it's a lot faster and easier.


Why not make one line of each and then you can decide.


Good info. Doesn't make a difference to me as I hunt with the dog and 36" drops, but my buddy is rigging some long lines and will pass this on.

I hadn't thought about the tautness of the main line as being restrictive, but now that you point it out... It make sense. Even if you put "slack" in the mainline... The current/wind will take up this slack and leave you with a taut line anyway.
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby preacherdan » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:58 pm

I have heard if you dont put drops on the rigs you see the mainline when looking down on the decoys and ie heard guys say it flares birds? Is this true?
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby fowlplayx » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:37 pm

If you are in shallows or not weighting down your ends, .and run cheap line and light weight clips yea you will have problems! I run the 36 inch
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby fowlplayx » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:57 am

Key word! Ends! As In both! Some guys don't weight the tail down
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby stealfeathers » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:42 pm

Leave the tail with out a weight and see what happens when the tide changes.

Use cheap line and see how many decoys are floating away in a high wind.

These are both mistakes I learned the hard way . I personally don't always run drops on long lines, this year I may but years past I just let the bird drift out of the decoys before I send the dog. It gives her time for a good mark and eliminates the chance of dragging decoys. When there's more than two birds I will send whoever it was I took hunting that day to get it. :thumbsup:
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Re: Long Line Spread?

Postby preacherdan » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:28 pm

Do any of you make an extremely long line and weight it down at multiple points to make a spread or what formation do you like to use for the divers?
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