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Ammo registration bill on Assembly Floor

Postby JonD » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:37 pm

SB 53 (De Leon) has passed out of the Public Safety Committee in the Assembly, and is now awaiting final passage. In 2013, the bill lacked the votes necessary to pass and go to the Governor for his signature. California Waterfowl Association members sent over 600 emails to their members of the Legislature and the Governor asking that the bill not be passed or signed into law. However, the author has brought the bill back and it is currently in the state Assembly for a vote. California Waterfowl members weighed in again, but the bill has still made it to the Assembly floor, where it awaits final passage.

SB 53 (De Leon) would:

1) require all ammunition sellers and purchasers to annually register with the Department of Justice and pay a permit fee and 2) effectively ban the mail order and internet purchases of shotgun and rifle ammunition.

This bill would create unnecessary and burdensome fees and other requirements on licensed hunters and ammunition vendors purchasing commonly used sporting ammunition, and would serve as a disincentive for them to participate in hunting.

Recent changes to state law already mandate the registration of all newly purchased shotguns and rifles, while all licensed hunters effectively register with the state each year via the purchase of their hunting license and associated game stamps/tags. By additionally requiring the payment of a permit fee, SB 53 would only further increase the high financial cost and other existing requirements to participate in hunting.

In addition, there is already a significant (11%) tax placed on all ammunition purchases via the federal Pittman-Robertson Act. The tax, which generates over $12 million annually for California, helps fund critically important wildlife habitat work on state wildlife areas, including those administered by the California Department of Fish and Wildlife, as well as hunter education and safety activities. By further increasing the cost of ammunition, SB 53 would create a financial disincentive for hunters to generate these important conservation revenues.

SB 53 would also effectively ban the mail order and internet sale of shotgun and rifle ammunition by requiring that all ammunition transfers occur face-to-face. This would be especially burdensome to hunters who do not live near ammunition retailers, and would likely significantly drive the price of ammunition up in some local areas.


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Re: Ammo registration bill on Assembly Floor

Postby fishin444 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:11 pm

Tried your link and it didn't work.
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Re: Ammo registration bill on Assembly Floor

Postby bellabitch » Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:33 am

ditto... need to call up your local representatives... you can find their phone numbers on the internet and their email addresses. An email or a phone call works. However if they are democrats they probably wont listen to you on this issue.
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Re: Ammo registration bill on Assembly Floor

Postby Nabs » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:54 pm

This law would be unlawful on the federal level as it would restrict or prohibit or restrict inter-state trade.
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Re: Ammo registration bill on Assembly Floor

Postby quack-attack » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:33 am

We need to face it..this bill is going to pass the assembly vote. The state assembly is made up of 55 dems and 24 republicans. Our only hope is for the gov to veto it.
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Re: Ammo registration bill on Assembly Floor

Postby quack-attack » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:02 am

Shocker..passed assembly vote by wide margin yesterday
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Re: Ammo registration bill on Assembly Floor

Postby DuckFan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:38 pm

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...avClient.xhtml

It does show it did pass yesterday. An you can go to this site and search to read the amended bill.



Please understand that letters, e mails and calls, plus a lot of pressure put on this bill got it amended - and excepted those with hunting licenses.

Our involvement does count. This is not the first hunting/shooting related bill that was changed or stopped by hunters and others getting involved. dsilsby would have you believe it is futile to be involved and to just let it go. That is a mistake.

Please make time to call the governor's office - they open at 9am Monday. Speak to a rep and tell them this is unacceptable. That there are many people that are not hunters that depend on the less expensive method of purchasing their ammunition via online. We are not the criminals. We should be able to purchase online.


That's is my advise for now and I hope we hear from other organizations by Monday as to other things we can do to help stop this before signed.


My call will be made at 9am Monday, and an e mail will be sent now. It would be great to inundate his e mail box with a ton of messages this weekend, so it the first thing they see Monday morning. Regardless of the outcome, we must always have our voices heard and make them aware we are watching and will fight for our rights.

Governor Jerry Brown

Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160
e mails: Go there: https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php








My e mail sent: and my call will be made Monday at 9am

Dear Governor Brown,

Please do NOT SIGN SB 53 - the Ammunition bill. This will stop online sales of ammunition including for those that use shot shell for target, trap and skeet shooting. There are many people that do recreational shooting daily and do not need a hunting license for that activity. There are competitive shooting sports in this state and they require shot shells for their practice and tournaments.

This bill would not allow them the ability to purchase ammunition at the best internet prices, and forces them to try and purchase locally and be dependent on what ever these local vendors want to charge. Competition goes out the door on pricing. And finding ammunition locally is difficult at best. In my own county, Alameda, we can not even purchase shells as Walmart any longer. And try to find ammo in San Francisco or many other locations in the state.

To purchase locally, we have to drive to where ammunition is available and then try to find what we need. The internet sales from large vendors such as Cabelas - which is NOT located in CA - is a prime resource for the shooting sports crowd.

We want to continue to use Cabelas and other out of state resources via online to make our purchases.


Criminals don't follow the rules so this won't impact them. This harms the average good citizen and is a poor bill and should be stopped.

PLEASE STOP SB 53
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Re: Ammo registration bill on Assembly Floor

Postby Mean Gene » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:29 pm

Info you'll soon be coughing up:


The Attorney General shall permanently keep and properly
file and maintain all information reported to the Department of
Justice pursuant to the following provisions as to firearms and
maintain a registry thereof:
(A) Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2
(commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2 of Division 6 of Title 4
of Part 6.
(B) Article 1 (commencing with Section 27500) of Chapter 4 of
Division 6 of Title 4 of Part 6.
(C) Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050) of Division 6 of
Title 4 of Part 6.
(D) Any provision listed in subdivision (a) of Section 16585.
(E) Former Section 12084.
(F) Any other law.
(2) The registry shall consist of all of the following:
(A) The name, address, identification of, place of birth (state or
country), complete telephone number, occupation, sex, description,
and all legal names and aliases ever used by the owner or person
being loaned the particular firearm as listed on the information
provided to the department on the Dealers' Record of Sale, the Law
Enforcement Firearms Transfer (LEFT), as defined in former Section
12084, or reports made to the department pursuant to any provision
listed in subdivision (a) of Section 16585 or any other law.
(B) The name and address of, and other information about, any
person (whether a dealer or a private party) from whom the owner
acquired or the person being loaned the particular firearm and when
the firearm was acquired or loaned as listed on the information
provided to the department on the Dealers' Record of Sale, the LEFT,
or reports made to the department pursuant to any provision listed in
subdivision (a) of Section 16585 or any other law.
(C) Any waiting period exemption applicable to the transaction
which resulted in the owner of or the person being loaned the
particular firearm acquiring or being loaned that firearm.
(D) The manufacturer's name if stamped on the firearm, model name
or number if stamped on the firearm, and, if applicable, the serial
number, other number (if more than one serial number is stamped on
the firearm), caliber, type of firearm, if the firearm is new or
used, barrel length, and color of the firearm, or, if the firearm is
not a handgun and does not have a serial number or any identification
number or mark assigned to it, that shall be noted.
(3) Information in the registry referred to in this subdivision
shall, upon proper application therefor, be furnished to the officers
referred to in Section 11105, to a city attorney prosecuting a civil
action, solely for use in prosecuting that civil action and not for
any other purpose, or to the person listed in the registry as the
owner or person who is listed as being loaned the particular firearm.
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Re: Ammo registration bill on Assembly Floor

Postby garlicsalt » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:55 pm

it's a known fact that DEMS bite big harry balls. they should be so proud. :censored: DEMS.
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