GAbirdhunter wrote: whaknstak wrote: GAbirdhunter wrote:
As much as you want to make this a debate about morality, and how we should think about riparian landowners feelings, this is a thread about law. There is no statutory requirement to be a minimum distance from a residence. Please show me in statute how you came to your conclusion. if have refuted every attempt you have made to portray hunting to close to a residence as unlawful. you have failed to do so.
I have already addressed shot landing on private property. it is unlawful. how far you were away is irrelevant.
You made this debate solely about law, the thread topic is not "the legality of hunting near docks/homes." whether you like it or not the subject has ethical questions. I stated I was unsure about whether or not it was lawful in Florida, I also stated I was sure it was unlawful in Georgia on certain lakes, and with good reason.
Your kidding right?
hunting near docks/homes isn't a thread on the actual laws (or lack of) relating to hunting near docks/homes?
The op was asking for a link to a thread about firearms law. You were, and still are, the only one discussing ethics.
No I'm not kidding, you are treating this as black and white legalities,
That's because it is. You either can or cannot. I contend you can. Please prove me wrong.
and once again not looking at the bigger picture. So I will give you some examples, I guide hunts for a living so I have some perspective on the differences between hunting private land and public land. When I put ten guys out in one of my ponds to shoot there are risks, but one important fact is that all ten acknowledged these risks and were well aware they were putting themselves in a situation where they could possibly be shot accidentally. Everyone signs waivers and does there absolute best to be safe in what they do while hunting with me.
Ok. Your point? This is private property on a private hunt and you protect yourself from liability. How is this relevant?
Now you have told somebody that it is within their legal right to setup just beside somebody's residence.
It is. For reasons already mentioned. That's all I was discussing.
Let's say "Joe" comes out of his house to work in the yard and is pulling weeds while "Dave" is enjoying his duck hunt. Now Dave drops his gun accidentally and it goes off, and because he was set up so close his accidental gunfire just took out one of joe's eyes. Now he is charged with assault,
Not assault. Again you confuse Florida and Georgia law, something you have done throughout this thread. Hypothetical Dave would be charged with culpable negligence under 784.05. Assault under Florida law is the threat of bodily injury, not injury itself.
accident or not it is the hunters responsibilty to safely operate his weapon.
I completely agree. How far away you are from a house doesn't change this fact.
Say charges aren't taken up, civil lawsuits are next. Now the big difference between the guys that I take hunting, and "Joe" is that Joe wasn't made aware of the dangers nor was he given the choice, all while he was on his own private property.
He did choose to buy a house on the lake with this inherent risk not associated with houses elsewhere.
So how about as a LEO you maybe try something other than copying and pasting Fl statute, and speaking intelligently as to why, even if it isn't against the law, that it may not be such a good idea as to set up so close to someone's residence, where if an accident did occur, the hunter has only put himself in danger, and not someone who wasn't willing to take the risk.
I am only accountable for my actions, as are you, and anyone else reading this thread. I simply posted authoritative information on the LEGALITY of hunting near a residence. That is all.
It only will take one of these instances, God forbid it ever happen, and the state will shut down hunting on many of the lakes in Florida that are surrounded mostly by houses.
This is nothing but speculation and fear mongering.
The people in these homes have just as much of a legal right to their safety as we do to hunt public water, don't take it for granted, and don't take for granted that gun in your hand because it doesn't care which way the barrel is pointed when that firing pin goes off.
No one is ever allowed to practice improper gun safety be it 1 mile from a dock or two feet from a dock.