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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby idgator » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:20 pm

I apologize in the above response I listed waveslider and that was actually a response to cutm jack. Sorry about that.
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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby swanpig » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:28 pm

idgator wrote:I apologize in the above response I listed waveslider and that was actually a response to cutm jack. Sorry about that.


A lot of folks in the T.V. Have to apologize to everyone else in the state on behalf of the folks in district 19.
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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby idgator » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:21 am

I suppose if I wanted to act like you, I might respond to your last post with something like ... maybe you were too stupid to understand what I was saying (like a typcial republican). I won't do that though.

Is there anything else you would like to talk about or was that about it for you. If not, have a good evening.
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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby swanpig » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:30 pm

waveslider wrote:So you have been snooping around here for who knows how long and THIS is the topic that caused you to sign up? Interesting.


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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby idgator » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:29 pm

Waveslider, cutm jack, swanpig

Does it really matter how long I have enjoyed this site or what caused me to sign up? I didn't realized that getting your approval or anyone elses for that matter was a prerequisite to being able to post here.

Having said that, we probably don't share much in common politically judging by your posts, however, we do like to duck hunt.

I would say if you are going to post something that is political in nature (or controversial) then you should be a big enough man to handle someone who may disagree with your opinion and have an open honest discussion or if you can't, then maybe it shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby Slidellduckhunter » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:50 am

waveslider wrote:First off, you mistake me for a Republican, or worse-yet a conservative. I disagree with both sides, especially the part about gay marriage, abortion rights (or lack thereof actually), or anything the government has to say about religion. I am of the opinion that the government has absolutely NO place in any of those decisions, or the economics surrounding them. So I disagree with both.


+1 also...(I am an Independent). And apologies to Mean Gene, you are still welcome to move to Idaho as this is your freedom to do so (no papers, no borders).
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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby redbeardhd90 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:13 am

Wow first time poster on this site and soon to be ex IL resident going to Spokane. All of these posts are interesting.

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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby idgator » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:21 pm

Waveslider,

I’m glad to hear that you are patrolling the boards and keeping everyone safe from newly signed up members … I will sleep well knowing this.

Sorry I wasted your very valuable time pointing out those things. You have no obligation to respond to anything I say or post. However, if you are going to sit on your pedestal and cast aspersions then maybe you should be ready to defend them?

You"re assuming I thought you were a republican, I actually wasn’t sure, but had you figured as either Conservative/Republican or a Libertarian. You seem to be falling more on the Libertarian side of things as I read your posts.

There you go again … “ liberal/socialist agenda” … do you know what either of those words mean? I invite you to study the definition of both. Being Liberal has nothing to do with Socialism unless you are taking the meanings from Glen Beck.

This country was primarily founded on an escape from religious persecution that was occurring in Europe. The idea of having freedom of religion was/is a progressive ideal. Progressive in the sense of moving a society forward and pursuing freedom.

You bring up an interesting point, “the fastest growing period was when the government had the least control”. I’m not sure that statement is correct, but let’s assume it is … at what cost did that growth come? Have you ever read about the industrial revolution and the conditions that workers had to endure? Have you ever read about company towns and how employees were all but slaves to the corporations? Have you ever read about the things that companies did to the environment? I don’t know about you, but I for one am thankful we have a 5 day standard work week rather than 7, I am glad we have child labour laws, some environmental protection, etc., etc. Wow … government control really sucks doesn’t it? I’m not saying everything the government does is good, but I don’t ignore the fact that many of the liberties, freedoms and protection I have today are due to government. It’s a simple fact. Also, you may do a little reading about the GI bill that the GOVERNMENT put in place after WWII and what that did for this country.

Additionally, I don’t think anyone denies that capitalism is the backbone of our economy … again, unless you are getting your information from Glen Beck. Hell, we just went through a period where our government rescued most of the auto industry and our financial companies to prevent an economic catastrophe that would have destroyed many companies and sent this country into a depression. Everyone (or at least almost everyone recognizes we need capitalism). I really don’t get you guys that keep saying Liberals or anyone else don’t know this.

I am familiar with both Branden and Rand. It’s interesting that you choose to quote them, but now I know where you are coming from with some of these opinions you have.

For those of you not familiar with Ayn Rand … here’s an interview she gave some years ago (in case you don’t want to read her books). An interesting person to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ukJiBZ8_4k

I suppose you can side with the likes of Ayn Rand and her boyfriend or the philosopher that said … Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ … it’s a choice.

Waveslider, no offense, but you aren’t the self-made man you think you are (I’m not saying you didn’t work hard). I promise you, throughout your life you have been the beneficiary of subsidies and government handouts … do you drive on public roads, use public bridges, enjoy the protection of the US military, do you take any tax deductions when you file your taxes, do you buy food, what does the company you work for sell and who do they sell it to … do you think that maybe your customers use subsidies and government hand out to purchase goods from you and there by support your salary with others tax dollars. Don’t think for a minute you haven’t benefitted from subsidies and government handout because you have either directly or indirectly!

Oh btw … taxes are the price you pay to live in this country and our tax rates today are near all-time lows … if you don’t like it you’re more than welcome to move to a country with lower tax rates.

And now we do a full circle back to this smoking topic … this one is really sticking in your craw. The logic behind the smoking ban is simple … this is a matter of public health and my right as a non-smoker to not be subjected to cancer causing smoke. If someone wants to kill themselves by smoking by all means go do it, but you don’t have the right to take me or anyone else with you. Again, using your logic, maybe I should be able to go down town and spray asbestos all over the place because I think it’s pretty … certainly no one should have a right to tell me I can’t.

I would like to end my post complimenting you (I can have a difference of opinion with folks and like them). I saw a post of yours where you took some nieghbor kids out hunting and that is commendable, but I still disagree with your political perspective :beer:
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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby idgator » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:05 am

Waveslider,

I figured you were going to reply something like that. I hate to break it to you but what you pay in taxes doesn't even come close to paying for the infrastructure and military in this country, a good portion of it is part of the yearly deficits we run up along with other basic services the government supplies. I see you didn't address the other obvious subsidies you enjoy.

My point isn't to rub anyone's nose in it, my only point is that no matter how selfsufficent we think we are ... if you really, honestly look at it we aren't. We enjoy a lot of things that were built by previous generations, by the current over spending and by direct government action. This isn't to say that government is the answer to everything, it obviously isn't and as the government becomes more and more disfuncitonal it amazes me that this country can continue to prosper. And I'm not saying that hard work and individual drive isn't important because it is (it is the most important thing in determining success) ... I think you and I agree on this.

Truth be told, I wouldn't mind sitting down with you and exchanging some duck hunting stories along with a little political talk.

Take care and good luck.
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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby twsnow18 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:15 am

idgator wrote:Waveslider,

I figured you were going to reply something like that. I hate to break it to you but what you pay in taxes doesn't even come close to paying for the infrastructure and military in this country, a good portion of it is part of the yearly deficits we run up along with other basic services the government supplies. I see you didn't address the other obvious subsidies you enjoy.

My point isn't to rub anyone's nose in it, my only point is that no matter how selfsufficent we think we are ... if you really, honestly look at it we aren't. We enjoy a lot of things that were built by previous generations, by the current over spending and by direct government action. This isn't to say that government is the answer to everything, it obviously isn't and as the government becomes more and more disfuncitonal it amazes me that this country can continue to prosper. And I'm not saying that hard work and individual drive isn't important because it is (it is the most important thing in determining success) ... I think you and I agree on this.

Truth be told, I wouldn't mind sitting down with you and exchanging some duck hunting stories along with a little political talk.

Take care and good luck.


+1 idgator, ^^ I agree 100%.
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Re: Idaho information please?

Postby Jesse Minish » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:41 pm

Lots of great places in Idaho. I happen to live in Coeur D Alene one of my least favorite areas of Idaho. A little north or south of here though and it is nice. Just to many people here for me.
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