dont need the motor anymore

A place to share Idaho bird hunting knowledge and discuss Idaho hunting tactics.

Moderators: donell67, jjohnson_714, casey_714

dont need the motor anymore

Postby jjohnson_714 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:16 am

hey i'm looking for a small trolling motor since the boat launch we use is no longer accessible for our larger boat. it doesnt have to be pretty, just dependable.

thanks,
justin
Last edited by jjohnson_714 on Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
jjohnson_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2508
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 pm
Location: Coeur d'Alene


Postby donell67 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:46 am

maybe look into a briggs and stratton 5hp motor. ive heard alot of good things about them. were thinking of getting one for my bros little boat.
donell67
Forum & State Moderator
 
Posts: 1621
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:14 pm
Location: idaho

Postby jjohnson_714 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:43 am

since im a poor college student, i'd like to buy an older used one. thanks though :thumbsup:
User avatar
jjohnson_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2508
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 pm
Location: Coeur d'Alene

Postby Beak Buster » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:10 pm

How much do you want to spend?
If they fly they die
Beak Buster
hunter
 
Posts: 354
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:31 pm
Location: N Idaho

Postby jjohnson_714 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:34 pm

not quite sure. $200ish tops. we are going to try to bring one back from the dead first, but if that doesnt work then we need to figure out something. i really dont like rowing across the river in the fog and wind. and our electric motors just dont push all that weight very well.
User avatar
jjohnson_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2508
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 pm
Location: Coeur d'Alene

Postby donell67 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:27 pm

we tried my electric motor on my bros boat on the snake river didnt work to good. i wish i could find a good running motor that cheap. another more economical way i thought is running 2 electric motors but it sounds like you already do that. where were at even with 2 with some wind i dont think you could get up stream.
donell67
Forum & State Moderator
 
Posts: 1621
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:14 pm
Location: idaho

Postby casey_714 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:33 pm

jjohnson_714 wrote:we are going to try to bring one back from the dead first, but if that doesnt work then we need to figure out something.


Ugh.. why do I have to be so lazy sometimes? I just need to slap myself and bring it in to a shop. :oops: I'm sure it'll be an easy fix.

I rowed a total of about 3.5 miles on Saturday, (trust me...i just measured it on google earth) and um.... It was pretty tiring to say the least.
casey_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2092
Joined: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:45 am
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho

Postby donell67 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:11 pm

3.5 miles thats a long way to row. didnt the water pump go out on it. i am having mine replaced about 100 bucks.
donell67
Forum & State Moderator
 
Posts: 1621
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:14 pm
Location: idaho

Postby HaydenHunter » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:51 pm

I don't know how big of a boat you are trying to push but I have a Johnson Sea Horse 2 HP motor that I don't use very much. If you want to try it out and see if it fits your requirements it would be okay with me. I paid $200 for it used from a boat mechanic I trust and have run it very little myself. I would sell it for $200 if it works for you.

I believe you guys have my number.
HaydenHunter
hunter
 
Posts: 1164
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:37 am
Location: Hayden, ID

Postby casey_714 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:14 pm

donell67 wrote:3.5 miles thats a long way to row. didnt the water pump go out on it. i am having mine replaced about 100 bucks.


I'm not positive if it's the water pump or not. That's just what I was told that it sounded like. Justin is going to tear into it to see if he can't find anything out.

Hayden, I do have your number just in case Justin needs it.
casey_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2092
Joined: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:45 am
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho

Postby Beak Buster » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:48 pm

Hey what is your motor doing that it wont work?
If they fly they die
Beak Buster
hunter
 
Posts: 354
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:31 pm
Location: N Idaho

Postby jjohnson_714 » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:59 pm

here is the story on the motor that doesnt work. someone warmed it up before we went out hunting one morning out of the water. we got to the river, it starts up, then dies. i heard it might be a bad impeller and its overheating so im going to start with that. i just ordered one and a manual so hopefully i can get it running. if not, then i'll be looking for a new one for sure. its just sat in the garage for the past year and for some reason we never got around to taking it apart and trying to repair it. i'm hoping for the best, but trying to prepare for the worst.
User avatar
jjohnson_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2508
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 pm
Location: Coeur d'Alene

Postby Beak Buster » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:12 pm

how long would it run before it dies? Also how long did you run it out of the water? How long before you started it out of the water that day was the last time you used it? I've herd of a couple things from some guys you might want to check your fuel line sometimes bugs get in there don't ask me how it just happens.
If they fly they die
Beak Buster
hunter
 
Posts: 354
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:31 pm
Location: N Idaho

Postby jjohnson_714 » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:33 pm

fuel line from the gas tank to the motor, or one in the motor?

i think it was run about 5 minutes out of the water. it runs maybe a minute and then dies. i cant quite remember because it was last year. before i tear it apart though i was planning on trying once more. who knows maybe after a year the demons are gone :smile:
User avatar
jjohnson_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2508
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 pm
Location: Coeur d'Alene

Postby Beak Buster » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:09 pm

check both make sure there not plugged make sure it's getting gas to the carb and from the carb out.
If they fly they die
Beak Buster
hunter
 
Posts: 354
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:31 pm
Location: N Idaho

Postby jjohnson_714 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:09 pm

well i have exercised the demons... took it out of the shop and into a big bucket of water, and it started right up. so i let it idle for about 10 minutes and it worked fine. so then i put it in drive and let it go for about 5 and still no problems. some things just dont make sense, but after being a mechanic i've learned that machines have minds of their own. i've fixed hydraulic problems on helicopters by giving it them a swift kick in the ramp.
"yeah we are having a flux in the #2 hydraulic system.."
"hold on just one second sir."
WHAM
"thank you airman johnson, the flux seems to be gone"


thanks guys for all the advise and help :thumbsup:
User avatar
jjohnson_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2508
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 pm
Location: Coeur d'Alene

Postby Beak Buster » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:22 pm

I'll make sure not to fly on anything you worked on cause I can see it now there would be a real time lost and you would be the mechanice that worked on it. j/k Well cool now you guys better kill at least 2 limits now.
If they fly they die
Beak Buster
hunter
 
Posts: 354
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:31 pm
Location: N Idaho

Postby donell67 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:21 pm

glad its working now. what size motor is it are you running it on that jon boat what size is the jon boat. what size is your deep v boat and motor. just curiuos, i enjoyed using my bros small boat last weekend. i am wanting to get a smaller boat for not only a back up but a boat to pull behind my camp trailer. so i can fish when we go camping. i even thought about trading my big boat for a newer smaller boat. we got all the decoys we use in my bros small boat so thats not a problem.
donell67
Forum & State Moderator
 
Posts: 1621
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:14 pm
Location: idaho

Postby casey_714 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:47 pm

YAY!! My motor is "fixed"! Thanks for doing that Justin.

Donell, it is an older 6hp Johnson. I sold my Jon boat this last summer, because we had 5 boats in out parents' driveway :oops:. It was a 14 footer though, and it seemed to push it around all right (I wouldn't take it on any long trips though.) We have just been using the 12' row boat recently.

Our deep V is 14', with an 18hp Evinrude.
casey_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2092
Joined: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:45 am
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho

Postby donell67 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:09 pm

does that 18 get it on plain with a load. we had 25 on my bros 13 footer. it ripped until the lower unit went out. it was an older motor. outboards are so expensive. yeah thats what we thought about longer trips a smaller outboard is more affordable but it would take forever to get anywhere.
donell67
Forum & State Moderator
 
Posts: 1621
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:14 pm
Location: idaho

Postby jjohnson_714 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:48 pm

it doesnt plane. it wants to. i think at a few more rpm's it would, but it wont quite make it. maybe with some of those fins that go on the motor or maybe a different prop it would. :thumbsup:
User avatar
jjohnson_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2508
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 pm
Location: Coeur d'Alene

Postby donell67 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:13 pm

yeah i think your boats a little heavier than my bros. i think an 18 would be ok on my bros boat. how many dekes do you guys carry though. sorry about all the questions. probly one of those hydrafoils would help it plain.
donell67
Forum & State Moderator
 
Posts: 1621
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:14 pm
Location: idaho

Postby casey_714 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:17 pm

The boat actually is pretty heavy for how light it looks. We CAN carry like 3 people, all of our stuff, 8 dozen ducks, and a dozen or so goose floaters, but we don't usually haul that much. If you had 1 guy and a couple bags of decoys it would plane fine.

I think we should look into one of those "hydrafoils" though.
casey_714
State Moderator
 
Posts: 2092
Joined: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:45 am
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho

Postby H20 fowl » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:11 pm

ive been on boats all my life and and worked on a quite a few the hydrafoil thing works semi-ok if you have enough motor in the 1st place but just have it loaded but i would more or less try a different pitch prop but if you seriously plan on carrying that much weight for many more years to come you might want to look into getting a bigger motor new or used but it will be a wiser and safer investment
H20 fowl
hunter
 
Posts: 149
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:10 pm
Location: PASCAGOULA, MS


Return to Idaho Duck Hunting

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Fsbirdhouse, waveslider and 3 guests