In praise of Fall

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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:55 pm

Actually pretty iffy around here as well.
They can be got to, but those fields are highly coveted. I'd look about half way between you and me for better chances.
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Mean Gene » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:09 pm

Can you send us some of that rain you're talking about? It's getting hard to chew the oxygen out of the air around here.



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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby blackrock » Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:18 pm

Image Here is some more rain for you! We just had to haul buns down the canyon from a little evening dirt ride. As Fs said, one of the wettest Augusts in awhile. I don't like being on a rocky ridge with the lightning striking below me! Managed to make it home before the worst hit. Been there too many times in the high country deer and elk hunting. Cool wet weather and storms definitely feels like fall is right around the corner.......


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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:22 pm

Heavy rain just to the north, and huge light show with it.
Some light sprinkles coming down at the house just now, can hear them on the front yard Maple thru the computer room window.

Have to bite my tongue not to declare "Fall" came tonight.
Supposed to warm back up to very low 80*s next weekend, but for now it's very cool temps, and just now I can hear the rain beginning to come down quite hard again.

Yes!
I think we abandoned the "Sweltering 90*s" thread at exactly the right time.

Alright everybody! I believe you can start the celebration just a tiny bit early this year!
You can thumb your noses at summer now, we're at the very end!
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:15 pm

Yes, sometime during the night, fall came to E Idaho.
No matter they are calling for low 80*s next week, fall is here.

Pulled out the 20ga., the 12ga., and the ten ga. as well.
I am out of Hoppes 9. The realization was like a solid slap to the face. Will be making a trip to the local Cal Store soon. They better have it!
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby MS » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:08 pm

I was in Island Park today and it never got out of the 50's, and I swear some of the willows were looking a little yellow. Sure felt like Fall to me. :smile:
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:20 pm

This morning saw heavy rains all over E. Idaho, and many lesser showers afterward until late afternoon.
One wave has passed on to the East, and now another is rolling straight at us this evening.

I hope, but do not believe there will be much of a dove hunt this season in our neck of the woods.
No sooner than these storms are forecast to clear up for two or three days just prior to next weekend and the opening day on Monday, than the remnants of a tropical storm now in Mexico is slated to slam into our area with much more moisture by as early as Saturday.
What a ride it's been!
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby jdinid » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:49 pm

Yeah, it's here. A few more days of warmth and I'll get the lions share of tomatoes in. Harvested 35lbs of potatoes this morning.
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby 3200 man » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:28 pm

With the feeling Gene has with smoke in the air , we have dust with the same visibility here ! Almond harvest has begun
along with Corn being chopped so , watery eyes is the norm for everyone that you ( could see ) through the haze !

We've had a influx of Doves in the area (probably) from all the activity in the Nut Trees but , maybe some northern birds
are finding their way down from all the rainy weather up north ( you lucky dogs ) ? Dove season opener should be Outstanding
from what I've seen , where I hunt !......I would easily trade it for Rain , though ! :yes:
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:21 pm

Experiencing a good old fashioned "Gully Washer" outside as I type these words. Much thunder.

Tho I will go out for the dove hunt, I'm not buying any extra shells for it. I think most of the Mournings will be gone a week from now. Maybe most are already. But like Larry, I'll trade the Mourning doves for the rain. It's just grand hearing it come down.

Makes me have good thoughts about the coming waterfowl season. Maybe an early taste of winter weather to get the big birds moving this way sooner than they normally would.
This stormy 'fall' weather is getting me really excited!

NFL regular season football begins next weekend!
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:05 pm

A note to those who have stumbled into this thread thinking to learn how, or where.
Like the thread "Sweltering 90*s" that preceded it, you will find it to be more of a group Blog.
It is a catalog of events documenting where we've been, where we're at, and where we are all hoping to be.... moving forward.
It is about all things pertaining to that season most of us love best, and it will document it's arrival, and transition into the early winter months that include those most important to the sport that brought us all here to begin with.
It will often be about the weather that is so important to the change of this season, and the hoped for effect it will have on the game.
It might be about harvesting a garden one day, and a stringer full of fall trout the next.
How are your fruit trees doing? Have you seen any pheasants? Did you hear the first large flights of Snows migrating down the Snake last night, passing swiftly between rain squalls?
These things are important.
Attending the fair, working on decoys, scouting out your hunting spots, gathering with friends to discuss the coming hunts, the first smell of wood smoke in the air. A lane full of golden leaves.
These are the threads of fabric into which fall is woven.
More important I think, than how or where.
Hope you enjoy being here.
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:09 am

Snow!
It was bound to happen with all the moisture we've had.
The highest peaks around the rim of the Snake river plain have got their first good dusting of the season.
Nothing adds an exclamation point to the end of summer quite like snow.
We'll still be seeing some 80*s down here in the valley, but few are forecast for the next ten days. Mostly low to mid 70*s.
Still a bit early to say what Sept will be like, but if the Monsoonal moisture that's been coming up from Nevada and Utah gets turned off, things may dry up a bit here during our Indian Summer we often have into early Oct.
Sept should be good trout fishing this year, and I've already heard reports of a few nice ones taken in the son-in-law's new boat just last week.
Gonna have to get off my Duff and get my own boat back on the water now, A day or two to let the water drop, and that's just what I'll do!
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:33 am

Geese!

Typically we begin to get a really good build up of geese across the river from where I live that might start as early as the middle of August. There have been some hundreds coming over the house earlier, but then the numbers dropped off a bit. This morning they were back!
About 5:00 AM something spooked them on the roost, and the sound of their collective lift off was a real heart warmer.
Now that was a mass of geese!

Finally tracked down the fellow who has the large grass field beyond the end of our lane.
Wish he owned the place outright, but he only leases from a large corporation that will not allow hunting.
I guess that's just fine, cause nobody else will be troubling the geese in that field the first week or so of the season, and as soon as the tops of the winter wheat begin to show themselves in the field just over the fence from it, the geese will move en mass to the grain field...........and I've got that one exclusively! I have many other spots that promise to be just as good until then, just not a three minute drive from the house!
There is something to be said for being spoiled to the core!
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Mean Gene » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:08 am

Things are really cooling off nicely at night now. It's been near 50 each morning...makes it nice for sleeping at night. I'd like nothing better than to wake up one morning and see ice on the windshield, but the earliest I've seen that here is mid-September. We're still around 89-91 for daily highs.

My summer "part time job" has morphed into F/S/S/M shift at 12 hrs per day. Makes for a great payday, but doesn't leave time to get many decoys done, so I'm spending 10+ hours/day in the shop painting on my days "off". I usually spend an hour or so before, and after work, painting as well. I'm going to be extremely glad when the last of the birds fly out of the shop.

It's bow season for deer here, but I haven't even bought a license yet. Didn't see any reason if I couldn't get out to chase anything. Rifle season starts in the middle of September, and I'll be ready then. Not much size to the bucks in this country...more like rats with horns.

Been watching the Little League World Series a bit. Was really hoping to see the girl from Pennsylvania pitch, but no such luck. Watched Chicago beat Las Vegas yesterday. Was rooting for Vegas, but yesterday Chicago was the better team. Big kid that started pitching for Vegas most definitely needed another pitch besides the fastball. He throws hard, but you can't have one pitch against a team like he was facing. Should be a good one today between Chicago and South Korea.

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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:10 pm

Daughter's outside wedding reception here at the house last night looked as tho it would be a disaster 15 minutes before it started.
Heavy downpour. Then it stopped, and the party started.
Mickelsen Pack did the hog.
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Even Pa Pa got to sit down and enjoy the party with his granddaughter.
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It feels warmer, but the temperature is 66*s at 2:00 PM.
Shades of things to come.
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:38 am

waveslider wrote:So, based on what I saw this weekend, there is going to be a LOT of grain fields that go unharvested or at least will be harvested poorly to the point that I bet some farmers won't even bother. The barley looked good.

There were fields near Ashton/St Anthony/Rexburg that won't be fit for a tractor for a month it looked like. Some wheat was still green due to the wet August.

At what point is a field baited vs hunt able? I'm betting that little dilemma is going to come up and get argued in E Idaho this year for sure! You folks over there might want to tighten up on that just in case.

When was the last time you heard of a crop wasted in Idaho from too much water?


Good bit of advice waveslider!

I've been wondering the same myself.
I think standing crops are alright, harvested crops are alright, but if just knocked down and tilled a bit, that might mean baited.
Interesting dilemma for sure. But I'm thinking a guy can ask the farmer if he's harvested, or just bladed the crop under before he hunts it.

An excerpt from the feds guidelines about baiting.
What is Legal?
Hunting waterfowl over a crop that has not been harvested but that has been manipulated (rolled/disced) is considered baiting under current regulations.

You can hunt waterfowl on or over or from:

Standing crops or flooded standing crops, including aquatic plants.
Standing, flooded, or manipulated natural vegetation.
Flooded harvested croplands.
Lands or areas where grains have been scattered solely as the result of a normal agricultural planting, harvesting, or post-harvest manipulation.
Lands or areas where top-sown seeds have been scattered solely as the result of a normal agricultural planting, or a planting for agricultural soil erosion control or post-mining land reclamation.
A blind or other place of concealment camouflaged with natural vegetation.
A blind or other place of concealment camouflaged with vegetation from agricultural crops, provided your use of such vegetation does not expose, deposit, distribute or scatter grain or other feed.
Standing or flooded standing crops where grain is inadvertently scattered solely as the result of hunters entering or leaving the area, placing decoys, or retrieving downed birds. Hunters are cautioned that while conducting these activities, any intentional scattering of grain will create a baited area.

What is Illegal?

Some examples of areas where you cannot hunt waterfowl include:

Areas where grain or seed has been top-sown and the Cooperative Extension Service does not recommend the practice of top sowing (see section on wildlife food plots).
Crops that have been harvested outside of the recommended harvest dates established by the Cooperative Extension Service (including any subsequent post-harvest manipulations).
Unharvested crops that have been trampled by livestock or subjected to other types of manipulations that distribute, scatter, or expose grain.
Areas where grain is present and stored, such as grain elevators and grain bins.
Areas where grain is present for the purpose of feeding livestock.
Freshly planted wildlife food plots that contain exposed grain.
Croplands where a crop has been harvested and the removed grain is redistributed or “added back” onto the area where grown.

http://www.fws.gov/le/waterfowl-hunting ... iting.html
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:44 am

Blast,
It was downright chilly this morning. You know, the damp, rude kind. Was outside right after the rain stopped
I'm thinking some ponds at elevation might be seeing a tiny bit of icing along their shorelines already. I'm sure of that!
Some of the draws near the top of Malad pass are turning red with the leaf change there.
I bet a fellow can see his breath first thing in the morning at West Yellowstone today.
Things could reverse themselves next month, and see a bit of a warm up move in..............Nah.

Looking to the southwest just now, I'm seeing another black wall of cloud headed this way. More rain, and why not?
Sure can't hurt the wheat or alfalfa now. Don't know what our potatoes are gonna look like? Black Heart, and small I imagine.
Hope the corn fares better, but as much moisture as corn likes, it needs a little sun as well, and there sure hasn't been much of that!

Anybody been seeing any doves?
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:50 pm

Decoy flocking may all be done, but my assault against the decoys isn't quite over. Working on motion decoys next.

Blind locations to be determined, and banks to be cleared of debris.

Decoy trailer to set up.

Just at six weeks to do it all.

Hope to take one long Saturday to drive up and winterize the 5th wheel at Heise, take the wife up to Palisades Res to view the leaf change there, and then on up to Jackson Hole, Wyoming for her shopping and a nice dinner.
I bet she'll go for it!
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Mean Gene » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:19 am

I'm sitting here this morning, drinking coffee, and I'm trying to figure out a way to not have to go up to the shop and paint decoys. So far I'm coming up with a blank. I'm hoping the decoy elves came in last night and did the work for me, but I didn't see a light on in the shop. :lol3: Saw depressing picture of how far $100 goes in purchasing power this morning. California was at $89. No wonder we can't get ahead.

Definitely time to move.

Been spending a lot of time on the computer looking for just that...a place to move to. Have seen some great looking places...in the summer. Winter pictures are a bit different. :lol3: I don't mind cold, I am just NOT a fan of big snow. Maybe if I had a couple snowmobiles in the garage it would be different, but I don't. I wish I could create my own state. :lol3:
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby eagles2069 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:56 am

Gene where are you looking to move? In Idaho only? What do you consider big snow? Eastern Washington is actually where a lot of people move to escape California. My little town I grew up in we use to always talk bad about Californians because they were taking over the place haha. They really weren't bad but it did seem like we must of been on a brochure down in Southern Cali because every new family was from there. If you ever have any questions feel free to shoot them my way. Good luck with the move if you end up doing it. :thumbsup:
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby jdinid » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:57 am

Southwest Idaho snow works for me. I use my snowblower maybe four times a year. Come on over. :)
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Fsbirdhouse » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:18 am

jdinid wrote:Southwest Idaho snow works for me. I use my snowblower maybe four times a year. Come on over. :)


Now, tell him about the heat!
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby jdinid » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:31 am

Fsbirdhouse wrote:
jdinid wrote:Southwest Idaho snow works for me. I use my snowblower maybe four times a year. Come on over. :)


Now, tell him about the heat!


Sweltering. I believe there was a thread about it. :)
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby Mean Gene » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:44 pm

eagles2069 wrote:Gene where are you looking to move? In Idaho only? What do you consider big snow? Eastern Washington is actually where a lot of people move to escape California. My little town I grew up in we use to always talk bad about Californians because they were taking over the place haha. They really weren't bad but it did seem like we must of been on a brochure down in Southern Cali because every new family was from there. If you ever have any questions feel free to shoot them my way. Good luck with the move if you end up doing it. :thumbsup:


Idaho, Montana, Washington or Oregon. I'm actually going to be looking from Hermiston, Oregon to Moses lake, Washington in December. Kind of liked the Colville area, but I have a feeling it gets quite a bit of snow? :huh: Have any time to hunt? Gonna take a trip to Idaho to hunt with some reprobate before Thanksgiving. Idaho is appealing because of the gun laws. Washington is appealing because there's no income tax and I can get a 9% raise just for existing. By big snow I'm thinking looking at the driveway in the morning and considering how I'm going to get 3 feet of snow off to the side. The other consideration is heat. My wife's hands are starting to swell up when it gets hot, as in 95+. We get a lot of that here, and I surely hate to see her hurt. She loves to fish and I'd like nothing better than to be able to troll her around a lake while she caught fish. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: In praise of Fall

Postby eagles2069 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:51 pm

I grew up in Colville and now live in Spokane. I also hunt around Moses Lake. Feel free to contact me when your up around here and If I am working I will take the day off to take you out. Colville doesn't get too much snow. Every 5 or 6 years it does get a lot. We got 24 inch in 24 hours about 7 years ago now. If the heat your worried about I don't know if Western Idaho or Eastern Washington would be for you. We get days well into the 90s and once in a while hit 100. To stay more milder temps Western Washington or Oregon might be the place for you. But if your around I have no problem showing you around for a couple of days.
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