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What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby preacherdan » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:32 am

This catfish was caught in a private land 2 acre pond in south central illinois. I have never seen marks like this on a fish, cant be a turtle i dont beleive. Both puncture holes go all the way through the fish. Does anyone have any idea what kind of predator could have done this, the pond was only stocked with pan fish bass and chanel cat.
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Jake88 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:07 am

Damn crane bit off more than he could chew
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby preacherdan » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:39 am

Ya i wondered about a crane
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Medic4049 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:43 am

If it is near a good size river, I would wonder if i was an otter. On Ky side of the Shawneetown Bridge I have seen pictures of an otter eating fish. The recently added season on them in Ky is evidence of the regrowth of their population. The pictures were of an otter eating fish on the bank of a farm pond.
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby coulterville33 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:03 pm

Does anyone bow fish the lake and maybe shot it illegally
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Skyblaster7 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:33 pm

coulterville33 wrote:Does anyone bow fish the lake and maybe shot it illegally


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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby catdiesel15 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:13 am

An otter would eat everything but the head , and go through catfish QUICKLY .... but was my first thought too
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby kfehrma » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:12 pm

looks like it might have been gigged. Anyone frog gig that pond?
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby biscuitsandgravy » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:47 pm

Skyblaster7 wrote:
coulterville33 wrote:Does anyone bow fish the lake and maybe shot it illegally


:thumbsup:

:huh: :fingerhead:
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Feelin' Fowl » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:31 pm

biscuitsandgravy wrote:
Skyblaster7 wrote:
coulterville33 wrote:Does anyone bow fish the lake and maybe shot it illegally


:thumbsup:

:huh: :fingerhead:


That was his guess too
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Medic4049 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:12 pm

Why would you shoot a fish twice? I have owfished for a while. I would believe it if it wasnt two holes. but to be that consistent on a moving fish....... :eek:
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby biscuitsandgravy » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:58 pm

No way that was shot by an arrow... anyone wants to post up something to prove otherwise lets see it... crap if they prove it the Mods can ban me. :thumbsup:
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby preacherdan » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:07 am

I have my doubts about the bowfishing, you would have to stick it twice a quarter inch away directly above or below the first hole
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby SpinnerMan » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:45 pm

I've never seen a bow shot fish look like that, not to mention that there are 2 "arrow" holes and not one. Two shots from a BB gun or .22 maybe? :huh:

It's very weird for sure.

A few examples of bow wounds. Even the entrance woulds are normally bigger than that. The exit wounds normally much bigger.

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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Jake88 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:02 pm

Two holes = top and bottom of before mentioned crane's beak. Crime solved
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby SpinnerMan » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:08 am

Jake88 wrote:Two holes = top and bottom of before mentioned crane's beak. Crime solved

That must be what it is, but I didn't know they actually speared the fish.
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Jake88 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:00 am

SpinnerMan wrote:
Jake88 wrote:Two holes = top and bottom of before mentioned crane's beak. Crime solved

That must be what it is, but I didn't know they actually speared the fish.


Oh they do. I watch the sumbeeches spear small bass out of my pond almost daily
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby SpinnerMan » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:04 am

Jake88 wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:
Jake88 wrote:Two holes = top and bottom of before mentioned crane's beak. Crime solved

That must be what it is, but I didn't know they actually speared the fish.


Oh they do. I watch the sumbeeches spear small bass out of my pond almost daily

Then the only weird thing is that didn't end up as dinner or dead on the bottom somewhere.

I really thought they just grabbed them.

I guess that's my new thing to learn for today. :smile:
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby rism » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:57 am

Cranes can be real nasty. Sitting on the back steps of my cabin @ the Il. River, backwater Snicarte Slough one evening. Crane was fishing about 75 yds from me in the slough. Heard another one coming in the air making the God awful noise they make, only this one was more prolific. He (she) flew at the one that was fishing and gored it right thru the back of the head. Dangest thrashing, flopping I ever saw. The criminal crane then flew away. Couldn't believe what I had just seen. Put on my hip boots and went and checked it out. The crane that had been fishing was dead meat. Speared through the back of the head and came out just inside the eye socket. It must have been trespassing is the only thing I could figure.

I don't drink or do drugs so I wasn't hallucinating !!! I was telling my better half and she could hardly believe me until I showed her the dead crane. Haven't much cared for them suckers since. They have had a rookery @ Sanganois. Kind of spooky when they are all there nesting.
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby KillerKowalski » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:32 am

Jake88 wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:
Jake88 wrote:Two holes = top and bottom of before mentioned crane's beak. Crime solved

That must be what it is, but I didn't know they actually speared the fish.


Oh they do. I watch the sumbeeches spear small bass out of my pond almost daily


I am a spearer. That is the way I learned as a kid. Easy on the choice of words for legal spear/bow fishermen. I use a white gas lantern clamped on the front of 16' canoe and 10' 1.5" doll rod with a 5" three prong spear and a paddle ducked taped to the other side. I oar the canoe myself and spear at the same time. If you never have done it, you should try it. Everyone I bring for the first time all they talk about when they see me is our spearing memories. Hitting a 15 pound Carp or a 4' Gar is a lot of fun. Lost a lot of flashlights in the bottom of the lake over the years.
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Jake88 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:43 am

KillerKowalski wrote:
Jake88 wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:
Jake88 wrote:Two holes = top and bottom of before mentioned crane's beak. Crime solved

That must be what it is, but I didn't know they actually speared the fish.


Oh they do. I watch the sumbeeches spear small bass out of my pond almost daily


I am a spearer. That is the way I learned as a kid. Easy on the choice of words for legal spear/bow fishermen. I use a white gas lantern clamped on the front of 16' canoe and 10' 1.5" doll rod with a 5" three prong spear and a paddle ducked taped to the other side. I oar the canoe myself and spear at the same time. If you never have done it, you should try it. Everyone I bring for the first time all they talk about when they see me is our spearing memories. Hitting a 15 pound Carp or a 4' Gar is a lot of fun. Lost a lot of flashlights in the bottom of the lake over the years.

That sounds like a blast!! But I will continue to curse them nasty cranes, with all due respect to you
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Jake88 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:45 am

But if you were to be in my backyard, spearing my little bass, you'd get cursed as well lol
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby KillerKowalski » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:50 am

I would also. Report them.
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:51 am

Jake88 wrote:But if you were to be in my backyard, spearing my little bass, you'd get cursed as well lol

And probably worse, I suspect :yes:
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Re: What kind of predator is responsible?

Postby Jake88 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:55 am

KillerKowalski wrote:I would also. Report them.


Could I report cranes as a nuisance to Fish and Game??
Would they even do anything about it??

BTW KillerKowalski, I was never cursing a spear fisherman. Just them damn cranes!!
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