Duck numbers

Learn and share Illinois river duck hunting with other duck hunters. Have fun and tell your best hunting jokes about Illinois.

Moderators: lostpup, MM, SPatrick, Illinois-Ducker, huntall6

Duck numbers

Postby asmythe32 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:35 pm

anyone think they may be a little off on the surveys? Says the lower Illinois river valley has 238,000 ducks in it. Thats seems like it is a bit high to me but I dont know. Hard to believe there are that many ducks over there and no one is on here talking about it.
User avatar
asmythe32
hunter
 
Posts: 1136
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:31 am
Location: Illinois


Re: Duck numbers

Postby redneckgoosebuster22 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:10 am

Coots look like mallards from few hundred feet in the air
redneckgoosebuster22
hunter
 
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:56 pm
Location: Braidwood, Il

Re: Duck numbers

Postby riverrat47 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:08 am

Those guys are very good at their ID's and estimates. Tud Crompton was spot on. He did it for decades. After he retired, I very much questioned the validity of some of the counts. However since Aaron Yetter got experienced, I've very confident in his numbers.
With no really cold weather to drive waterfowl to feed, if they find a secluded spot, where they are unmolested, you would never know they were there.
Semper Fi, Marines

Casey 1997-2011 RIP
riverrat47
hunter
 
Posts: 460
Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:01 pm
Location: nw illinois

Re: Duck numbers

Postby rism » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:20 am

Right on RR. If the ducks @ The NC are all on the east and northeast side and not moving you wouldn't know there were any there let alone 50,000. I stopped there Sunday on the way home and glassed the area for a while. Would see a little movement and one of the employees said they were all in the weeds on the east side and north. Aaron does a heck of a job and is spot on in species and numbers. I've flown over ducks a few times. It is quite easy to tell the different species from the air by the coloration. The difficulty comes in telling which is which.
rism
hunter
 
Posts: 151
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:04 am

Re: Duck numbers

Postby riverrat47 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:30 am

I just went and looked at the count. Of the 238,000, approximately 93,000 are at Chautauqua Refuge. Now, if you figure they are flying approximately 60 river miles on the lower Illinois section, that amounts to less than 4,000 ducks per mile. If we subtract those 93,000 on the refuge, there are slightly more than 2400/mile. I'd venture to say that a good portion of the 2400 ducks in a mile could become very invisible to the average guy doing a little windshield scouting.
Besides, on all the forums I frequent, in general I'm hearing fair to good reports in regards to the Central Zone opening weekend.
Semper Fi, Marines

Casey 1997-2011 RIP
riverrat47
hunter
 
Posts: 460
Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:01 pm
Location: nw illinois

Re: Duck numbers

Postby asmythe32 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:15 am

I am not doubting it, I guess I am just curious as to if anyone is seeing big groups. I don't hunt I've there but the numbers are way up compared to previous years. Gets me excited for my area of the state is all.
User avatar
asmythe32
hunter
 
Posts: 1136
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:31 am
Location: Illinois

Re: Duck numbers

Postby KillerKowalski » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:57 am

I haven't looked at the surveys yet. I pay little attention to them. Hunting and seeing birds in a specific area is better than looking at survey numbers. I agree that numbers are up. Our kills prove that.

There are large groups migrating. Not as much as I want. But, they are there. I saw one again Saturday evening, which busted me resetting decoys. Fully committed and dropping about a half mile up. Sunday morning there were quite a few. The numbers are more impressive in Northern than Central right now which explains that public draw numbers are so low on specific spots.
User avatar
KillerKowalski
hunter
 
Posts: 2975
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:25 pm

Re: Duck numbers

Postby riverrat47 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:25 pm

What I look at for all counts, aerial or land based are the trends, rather than the actual numbers. Are number up or down? By what percent?
Semper Fi, Marines

Casey 1997-2011 RIP
riverrat47
hunter
 
Posts: 460
Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:01 pm
Location: nw illinois


Return to Illinois Duck Hunting

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: sureshot 612, tanglewoodron and 20 guests