labralover wrote:TBS, I realize that my last two comments set the tone for my entire post, but I was not saying that I or other nonresidents are superior hunters. Just the opposite actually, I have continued to come to KS for a number of reasons, one being the amount of quality waterfowlers we come across. The point I was trying to make is that a few bad apples, residents or not contribute to the majority of the problems. Everyone seems to remember the few jerks that ruin a hunt but never compliment the group across the way that let birds work, killed green, and didn't cause any problems. The few issues we have run into on the water, here at home or across several states in our flyway that We choose to hunt always, always, always come from a group that don't hunt like you and I. That's we're jealousy comes into play...the guys that are shooting at high passing birds will never kill as many birds as the guys that do it right, and when they don't they get upset and blame it on the trucks at the ramp that don't have license plates that look like theirs. Like you I am lucky enough to hunt with residents that know the birds in the area. I think we are coming from the same place. You say don't paint with a wide brush and lump all KS residents in the same, poor, category. I challenge you to do the same with nonresidents. You are right when you say that KS has become a destination for nonresidents lately and the more you get the bigger chance you have to find bad apples. Unfortunately the glamorization of waterfowling in recent years has changed our sport. That is out of our control. we must adapt, continue to hunt the way we were taught, and hope the recent trends go by the wayside and those guys go back to deer hunting. I really hope to meet some of you guys this week.
I can agree with most of what you are saying here, but it sure didnt' come across that way in your first post. Anyway, if you will go back through this thread, you will see that I have NOT painted all OOS'ers with a "wide brush." I actually made specific reference to resident slobs. Second, you are correct waterfowling has exploded in popularity and Kansas has pimped our outdoor resources to near extinction. I can honestly say that the problem is more duck hunters in general. The OOSers just catch most of the flack because they come, camp out and hunt, hunt, hunt until the place is burned up. Then they leave, go back home and don't have to deal with all the stale birds and mess they left behind. Many of the resident hunters try to maintain a level of hunting quality that we desire by not shooting into big flocks and only taking birds in the decoys. To us, the "quality" of the hunt is more imporatant that the "quantity" of birds we bag. But don't get me wrong, we kill more than our fare share of birds. The problem is that over the past 3-4 seasons we've seen more, and more, and more, and more hunters out there. Many of them residents, many of them OOSers. And, during that time we've seen the quality of hunting get worse, and worse, and worse. What can I say, public places are open to anyone. I don't own those waters and neither does anyone else, so its not a jealousy thing, its a get used to it or quit type of thing. Until we get less waterfowl hunters in this state, we will continue to see a decline in the "quality" of duck hunting. Most of the shore pounders and weekend warriors won't stop because they are happy with shooting a box of shells through their gun each day and bringing home 1 or 2 birds to show their buddies on facebook. But those of us who are used to doing it right and seeing the show over the decoys will be the ones to give it up first.
I wish the pheasant and quail population would rebound. I wish there were more deer hunters that didn't lease everything and oust the blue collar guys from all the private lands. I wish the duck seasons were fewer days and lower limits. Anything to thin out the number of hunters that are pressuring our limited waters would be a step in the right direction, as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps KS could start limiting waterfowl permits per season? Oh, wait I forgot they are trying to do the exact opposite!
Forgive me, for this long time KS duck hunter is frustrated with the circus that has become public duck hunting in this state.
IF I AGREED WITH YOU, WE'D BOTH BE WRONG.