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No birds in October!

Postby Toledo » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:14 pm

You boys gonna be missing out again while we pile em high the first two weeks of November in TX.

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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Rick Hall » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:15 pm

We'll somehow manage to survive.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby jcrowder0207 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:35 pm

We Went to Lease in SW Louisiana Sunday, Few High Geese but very few ducks.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby D Comeaux » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:43 pm

Toledo wrote:You boys gonna be missing out again while we pile em high the first two weeks of November in TX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbY57mt ... r_embedded


They thank you for the feed on this short layover, as they are headed to Laguna Madre Mexico. I saw there itinerary.








JK.... good to see the birds.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby adamdu82 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:43 pm

got a report from the Atchafalaya delta area.........very few birds seen and that was riding around with an airboat. Got cold weather coming for the weekend.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Delta1389 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:15 pm

I've been told by guys redfishing near point au fer they are seeing lots of birds. Pintail treys shovelers teal and a few mallards. Also heard they are stacked up in the wax right now. Haven't rode out there to see for myself though.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Rick Hall » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:33 am

Spent yesterday morning in our marsh and saw two mottleds and three unidentified ducks, and only one small flight of specks. Glad the opener is still a little ways off and figure it will be about right for us again, given years past.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby adamdu82 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:17 pm

made a good run in the marsh in the lake decade area today........we were in prime duck habitat and i saw maybe a handful of birds.......and that was covering a lot of ground not just some small area......the coot numbers are pretty good though........all i know is in the past few years i saw way way way more birds around this time........someone please drain all those fields to the north holding the birds please. I would almost be willing to bet that if you drove up to the red river area and arkansas area and took a look in those fields........you probably can't see any field because its so thick with geese and ducks.....just my thoughts for what they are worth.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Toledo » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:44 am

If the coots have made it the greenwing, greys, wigeon, pintails, redheads, and ringnecks wont be far behind.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Cenla1 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:20 am

I think you are partially correct. The fields north of Monroe are full of specks, very few snows. A few spoonies and teal but not a lot. Specks are thick.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Big Hutch » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:34 am

Im going to our marsh to brush the blinds and throw out about 200 decoys Saturday after a quick deer hunt. I hope to give a good report Saturday night.

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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Toledo » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:43 pm

Just got back in from scouting and we found em boys. Bout 150 pintail, teal, and spoonies on a 3/4 acre pond. Candy from a baby. Wish the season opened tomorrow. The field next to it had more snipe then I've seen in years too.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Rick Hall » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:48 pm

Toledo wrote:The field next to it had more snipe then I've seen in years too.


That's more interesting than the ducks. They've been largely AWOL here the past however many seasons.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Toledo » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:31 pm

Rick Hall wrote:
Toledo wrote:The field next to it had more snipe then I've seen in years too.


That's more interesting than the ducks. They've been largely AWOL here the past however many seasons.


Bout 10 acres of semi wet field. Had to have been a snipe for every five foot of it.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby greenster » Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:49 pm

Really none in the se ark as of yet.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby locked up » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:02 pm

Delta1389 wrote:I've been told by guys redfishing near point au fer they are seeing lots of birds. Pintail treys shovelers teal and a few mallards. Also heard they are stacked up in the wax right now. Haven't rode out there to see for myself though.


Brought the houseboat to the wax yesterday & rode around a good bit - wouldn't say they are stacked up by any means. I saw just enough to get run off well before the opener.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:12 am

adamdu82 wrote:made a good run in the marsh in the lake decade area today........we were in prime duck habitat and i saw maybe a handful of birds.......and that was covering a lot of ground not just some small area......the coot numbers are pretty good though........all i know is in the past few years i saw way way way more birds around this time........someone please drain all those fields to the north holding the birds please. I would almost be willing to bet that if you drove up to the red river area and arkansas area and took a look in those fields........you probably can't see any field because its so thick with geese and ducks.....just my thoughts for what they are worth.

you hunt the terrebonne marsh? well now it all makes sense. what you are experiencing has nothing to do with the fields in arkansas. It has to do with sinking floatant marsh, the locks at bayou boeuf, saltwater intrusion, and changing migration patterns. My cousins lease is in the terrebonne marsh. been hunting it for 51 years. I have personally seen the changes as they took place. His lease is smack dab in the middle of what once was one of the highest concentrations of ducks in the state of louisiana. When I started hunting there, I caught the tail end of the decline.

Quite simply-the birds moved. Get over it and stop blaming the farmers in arkansas. If you want the ducks to return, you need to rejuvenate the terrebonne marsh by lobbying for the siphon diversion they are discussing. That my friend will bring the ducks back.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:28 am

If you want something to blame it on, blame it on the flood of 1973, and hurricane Andrew....those two devastated the Terrebonne freshwater marshes.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:39 am

adamdu82 wrote:Well, grass isn't a problem where we hunt because all of the marsh is washing away and the salt water intrusion constantly killing off any duck grass that was there. Its really terrible that most of us duck hunters can't even just enjoy the habitat we hunt and have to deal with all of this nonsense brought on by manipulation of mother nature. It sucks.


I guess you are going to blame the saltwater intrusion on farmers in Arkansas too.

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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Toledo » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:30 pm

Went back out to check up on the birds this afternoon. The ducks hadnt moved an inch but not a snipe one to be seen. Little fresh rain last night must have sent them packing to a drier field. Hoping this front forecasted for Friday doesnt blow the ducks out.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Big Hutch » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:07 pm

Went to our marsh yesterday. We put out decoys and brushed up the blind. I guess we got there about 1:30 and left about 6:15. We saw a few mottled ducks, a couple of pairs of gadwalls, a pair of pintails, and a little bunch of 5-6 bluewing teal.

I hope the cold fronts keep coming. November 9th might be a good chance to see a pretty sunrise in the marsh if something doesnt change.

On the bright side our marsh looks better than it has in the last 5 years. If we get some ducks we should have some ducks using our marsh.

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Re: No birds in October!

Postby adamdu82 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:36 pm

In response to Indaswamp.........first of all I want to say that I think you are one of the only ones that has showed me any amount of respect on my ramblings the other days and I appreciate that. With that in mind i'll keep my words civil. I understand that we have our issues with our marshes down here and all that has been brought on by numerous factors. I will say that I do not believe our habitat from Terrebonne to Lafourche is too degraded to support a healthy wintering duck population. This year we have feed out the a** and i can count the ducks i've seen so far on my two hands. I have witnessed a few years back what amount of ducks an extreme drought year can bring. I would say that year the marshes are the only areas that had any water for ducks to congregate and we had more than we knew what to do with. Years before and following years were rainy years and our duck numbers have once again bottomed out. Your buddy's pics really only validated for me for where i know our birds to be. I understand that those created habitats help the duck population and I support that. Fact is the corn, rice, bean whatever field creation/flooding has gotten way out of hand these days and WE are paying the price with mostly empty skies. On the other issue of whether or not that flooded rice, corn, bean field is a baited field.........that is just a whole other beast that I could argue for days.........its sort of like why can't i just plant corn all around my duck pond and knock it over into the water and let the ducks pour in? But they will say that's baiting. I don't find that any different than harvesting a field, knocking feed over on to the ground and then then "FLOODING" it. It should be natural flooding only allowed at the very least. My thoughts.....what's yours?
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby adamdu82 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:46 pm

O and one more thought on the "degrading marsh habitat being the reason for no ducks." I cover alot of marsh area with my job and I just recently went down to the Atchafalaya delta WMA. That is the best duck habitat you ever put your eyes on and hardly any birds for an area ususally black with ducks/geese this time of year. I'm sure there are a few birds there right now but not what's normally there.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Indaswamp » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:49 pm

adamdu82 wrote:In response to Indaswamp.........first of all I want to say that I think you are one of the only ones that has showed me any amount of respect on my ramblings the other days and I appreciate that. With that in mind i'll keep my words civil. I understand that we have our issues with our marshes down here and all that has been brought on by numerous factors. I will say that I do not believe our habitat from Terrebonne to Lafourche is too degraded to support a healthy wintering duck population. This year we have feed out the a** and i can count the ducks i've seen so far on my two hands.


That does not matter when you have numerous consecutive years of bad feed. Ducks become imprinted. The fly where the feed is. A large majority of young follow the hen to where she winters. Over time, less new young birds are recruited and imprinted to fly to a marsh with poor feed conditions from salt water intrusion. Period. If feed and conditions are good, some might return, but if they are bad, most will not unless mother nature forces them to.




I have witnessed a few years back what amount of ducks an extreme drought year can bring. I would say that year the marshes are the only areas that had any water for ducks to congregate and we had more than we knew what to do with.

sure, we had one hell of a season during the drought too, but you don't hear me bitching about farmers in arkansas. Those hens got pushed here because of no water. when the water returned, they flew back to their traditionally imprinted feeding grounds.
Some of the young likely flew to the marshes of the previous year, but if feed conditions suck, they will move on.

Years before and following years were rainy years and our duck numbers have once again bottomed out. Your buddy's pics really only validated for me for where i know our birds to be. I understand that those created habitats help the duck population and I support that. Fact is the corn, rice, bean whatever field creation/flooding has gotten way out of hand these days and WE are paying the price with mostly empty skies. On the other issue of whether or not that flooded rice, corn, bean field is a baited field.........that is just a whole other beast that I could argue for days.........its sort of like why can't i just plant corn all around my duck pond and knock it over into the water and let the ducks pour in? But they will say that's baiting. I don't find that any different than harvesting a field, knocking feed over on to the ground and then then "FLOODING" it. It should be natural flooding only allowed at the very least. My thoughts.....what's yours?

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The law is what the law is.... bitching about changing migrations patterns and blaming it on arkansas farmers is shortsighted on your part. Byers has been doing the same thing he is doing this year that he has been for the past 60 years. We killed ducks in spite of the fact that he does what he does. You can not blame it on them. Period.
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Re: No birds in October!

Postby Indaswamp » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:51 pm

adamdu82 wrote:O and one more thought on the "degrading marsh habitat being the reason for no ducks." I cover alot of marsh area with my job and I just recently went down to the Atchafalaya delta WMA. That is the best duck habitat you ever put your eyes on and hardly any birds for an area ususally black with ducks/geese this time of year. I'm sure there are a few birds there right now but not what's normally there.

You obviously are not familiar with where the ducks go when the are not left alone and are continually run up from surface drives.
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