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Postby Mdrake » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:52 pm

Did everyone know MN requires a fully feathered head* AND* wing when transporting ducks. I emailed the DNR to explain this stupid rule and they emailed back it is a federal regulation. I believe they are wrong,we all need to let them know this regulation needs to be changed. I also asked how they expect us to clean our birds properly with a head and wing attached. They had no answer.
I think I should clarify the above in MN we are required to have BOTH a fully feather head and wing not one or the other.
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Re: MN Regs

Postby dfrauenkron » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:00 pm

:huh: :huh: It is a federal regulation!
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Re: MN Regs

Postby Mdrake » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:07 pm

Not according to ND and SD
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Re: MN Regs

Postby dfrauenkron » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:23 pm

Just looked up ND and yes you are required to:
One fully feathered wing or the fully feathered head of all waterfowl, snipe, crane and woodcock shall remain attached to such game during transportation or shipment until it reaches the hunter’s legal residence or it is processed to be immediately consumed. (Exception: Geese only: Commercial game processors who comply with all state and federal tagging and record keeping requirements may remove identification from geese to be processed for consumption, prior to reaching the hunter’s legal residence. The processed geese may be transported when accompanied by a copy of the record provided by the processor. Processed geese are still subject to daily and possession limit regulations.)
http://gf.nd.gov/regulations-hunting-fi ... ting-guide
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Re: MN Regs

Postby Swamp Gas » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:08 pm

Years ago when a fully feathered wing was all we had to have two buddies and myself had to stop for a random game check. It was opening weekend sunday at a rest stop in I-94 just West of Monticello. We had Saturdays birds breasted with two fully feathered wings attached. We bagged a few redheads that weekend and it was during the closed canvasback years(late 80's to early 90's).

At least a couple warden identified all of our breasted redheads as canvasbacks. After debating on among themselves and assuring them we were finally sent on our way with the birds. Ever since then I have been extra cautious with species a warden may misidentify.
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Re: MN Regs

Postby Mdrake » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:19 pm

If you read my first post,in MN you are required to have a fully feather head AND AND AND wing. Not one or the other. Should I put on a scratchy head.
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Re: MN Regs

Postby goldfish » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:03 pm

I don't get your confusion. That's a federal rule.

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Re: MN Regs

Postby Mdrake » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:19 pm

Federal regs are one fully feathered head OR wing.I don't know how to make this more clear. MN regs on page 12 of waterfowl regs it reads fully feathered head AND wing. :hammer: :hammer:
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Re: MN Regs

Postby Swamp Gas » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:36 pm

I realize it is state law now. It was not in the late 80's. One fully feathered wing used to be MN state law. Not sure on exactly what year the head&wing law started but f I had to guess it would be about 10years ago. After my bad experience I prefer to gut and ice pack birds for transport.
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Re: MN Regs

Postby Mdrake » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:57 pm

Does nobody find this odd that we are the only state in the five state area that requires this?
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Re: MN Regs

Postby Swamp Gas » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:04 pm

Very odd.
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Re: MN Regs

Postby MinnesotaDan » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:37 pm

I've never met a single person who keeps the head and wing attached either when freezing or during transport. The laws are confusing at times, so generally I just do my best to avoid law enforcement because I feel like no matter how law abiding I feel I'm being, they can always get me for something, no matter how small or insignificant.
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Re: MN Regs

Postby jriegel22 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:25 am

Mdrake wrote:Does nobody find this odd that we are the only state in the five state area that requires this?



Montana does as well
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Re: MN Regs

Postby beretta24 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:16 am

I don't find it to be a big deal for transport. I pack em with 1 wing and the head loosely attached. Not a problem unless you have a bunch of geese.
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Re: MN Regs

Postby olt d2 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:59 pm

To clean a duck and leave a head and wing is easy. lay duck on back and cut it open like your going to gut it and pull the skin back like your going to breast it out. Next take game sears(scissors) and cut the ribs on each side. Pick up the bird hook two fingers under the breast bone by you first cut and palm/grasp the breast with one hand and grab the legs/butt with the other. Now pull the breast one way and the butt and legs the other way and downwards.snap the back bone up by the shoulders and cut.You will end up with all the guts and rear half of the bird in the trash and the breast ,head and wings all attached in your other hand. Fast and easy. :beer:
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Re: MN Regs

Postby goldfish » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:20 pm

Mdrake wrote:Does nobody find this odd that we are the only state in the five state area that requires this?

Odd, maybe, but out of the norm that MN would be different than other states, that's not surprising at all.

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Re: MN Regs

Postby StuStiltman » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:31 pm

So you have to have a wing and head attatched to transport ducks to your home, if your on a trip is it legal to cook a duck without the head and wing attached? My understanding of the law is the head and wing must remain intact until it is at you legal residence, no exceptions.
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Re: MN Regs

Postby goldfish » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:59 pm

StuStiltman wrote:So you have to have a wing and head attatched to transport ducks to your home, if your on a trip is it legal to cook a duck without the head and wing attached? My understanding of the law is the head and wing must remain intact until it is at you legal residence, no exceptions.

If you eat it, it is no more and you don't need to keep anything and you have another slot to fill in your possession.

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