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Goose pop increases

Postby h2ofwlr » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:57 am

Western goose hunters may catch break

Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:07 PM EDT

Outdoor News
By Tim Spielmant Associate Editor

Bemidji, Minn. - Goose hunters in western Minnesota, often limited by special protections for Eastern Prairie Population Canada geese, which migrate through the area, may have fewer limitations this fall.

DNR waterfowl specialist Steve Cordts recently got a first-hand look at EPP production in Canada, and said things are looking up for the migrants.

Cordts, who spent a couple weeks in Churchill, Manitoba, near nesting sites of the EPPs, said this year's breeding survey was especially promising, especially compared to last year, when a late spring contributed to fewer breeders.

This year, however, "There were as many Canada and snow goose nests as I've ever seen there," Cordts said.

The breeding survey is the first part of what the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service uses to determine season length and bag limits for EPPs. The second part monitors the number of nests and later, the fate of the nesting efforts.

"There are no final numbers, but from what I saw, it should be a good year," Cordts said. A decrease in predators - for a variety of reasons - also could boost goose production.

What does that mean for Minnesota hunters? Most likely, more time to hunt geese.

Last year, the season in the West-Central Zone was 25 days. This year, it most likely will resemble the season of two years ago, when a 40-day season was in place, Cordts said. It also could mean a longer goose hunting season for hunters in other parts of the state, he said.

The early season may change, Cordts said. The Northwest Zone may join the rest of the state (except the Southeast Zone) in offering hunters a bag limit of five geese daily. Cordts said it's likely the season still will be short in the northeast, likely Sept. 3-15. The remainder of the state will have a Sept. 3-22 early season.

The early goose season is aimed at the harvest of local giant Canada geese. The current resident population is about 340,000, well above the current goal, Cordts said. But fewer depredation complaints have been reported lately, and the goal may be adjusted, he said.

The details of the early season should be determined soon.

Duck seasons

State and federal officials are entering the period of serious discussions about the duck hunting season framework hunters will have for the 2005 fall season.

This week, Cordts said, the DNR's Waterfowl Committee will get together to come up with recommendations about the season, prior to being offered federal framework options.

On July 19, members of the Mississippi Flyway Technical Section will convene in Mississippi to consider data from spring surveys and to develop recommendations for a hunting framework.

Shortly thereafter, members of the Mississippi Flyway Council will vote on the technical section's recommendation.

In late July, representatives of all four flyways will meet to review their recommendations.

Come August, the USFWS' Service Regulations Committee will meet to "hash out flyway recommendations and come up with recommendations for the season," Cordts said.

That framework is passed on for states to consider. Often, during that process, public review and input is requested.

Spring state duck counts

Minnesota DNR officials this week were finalizing analysis of data collected in May from the fixed-wing survey of wetlands and waterfowl. Cordts said it's the same survey that's been conducted since 1968.

Typically the survey is completed in about 9-10 days, but this year took nearly the entire month.

"It was the longest survey on record; it took almost all of may," Cordts said. "It was mostly because of weather issues."

Details of the survey should be known next week, but Cordts said overall the duck count appeared to be down.
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Postby DeerScarer » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:24 pm

I scouted a WPA in western MN today. The water was high so about three small ponds had merged into one, but still a stretch to call it a lake. I saw four families of full grown giant Canadas out there, two with eight birds, one with nine and the fourth group half way around a point from me. 30+ of those big birds on that little slough along with assorted ducks. Seems a lot to this relative newbie anyway.

Man it was beautiful today. There was a hint of September in the air with that N breeze & cornfields all tasseled out and 7-8 feet high. A red doe and her red fawn crossed the gravel road as I was driving in. A hen mallard and five big fuzzy ducklings did the same at another spot. A family of mallards flew over and dropped into the pool as i watched. It's gonna be a good year, I can feel it.
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Postby gunman » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:50 am

after last year, it can only get better.......
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Postby gunman » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:53 am

DeerScarer- I'm going to be scouting around Fergus Falls in a week or two, how far are you from there?
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Postby DeerScarer » Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:41 am

gunman wrote:DeerScarer- I'm going to be scouting around Fergus Falls in a week or two, how far are you from there?


I'm in Moorhead, I was scouting a couple smallish WPAs down in that area. A lot a geese hang around Fergus!

Bye-the-way I've only been into shotgunning for a couple of years and primarily hunted Spring Snow geese down in South Dakota (although last November I did get a lone Canada). What's the openner like, is it kinda crowded? What are the rules of etiquette? When I see a vehicle I tend to consider the area taken, but do people get upset if you hunker down on the opposite end of the slough? (provided I don't sky-bust and scare off the geese?) :oops:
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Postby gunman » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:57 pm

there is one other group that hunt the large slough i hunt, decent guys, there group and myself have been hunting the area for about 7yrs now, the slough cold hold four groups with out being to crowded so theres elbow room as it is. This year my hunting partner moved out of state to chase his career, so i'll be going solo, if ya have a weekend off this fall and want to trade a hunt, it would be fun to put a name with a face.....-Chris
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Postby bloodjunkie » Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:28 pm

HAY NOW GUYS LAST YEAR WAS NOT THAT BAD WE DID AWSOME ON THE RIVER ARE GROUP AND TWO OTHERS LIMITED OUT ON OPENER WE HAD SO MANY NICE BIG FLOCKS IT WAS PICK AND CHOOSE IF YOU SHOT A 4LB GOOSE IT WAS YOUR OWN FALT

I FOUND IF I STAYED ON A BIG RIVER OR OR NEAR IT THERE WAS A GREAT CHANCE WE SEE AND OR SHOOT SOME GEESE.
IT WILL BE NICE TO HAVE A LONGER GOOSE SEASON. LESS TIME BETWEEN THE END OF EARLY GOOSE AND DUCK OPENER I HATE THAT TIME IM ALWAYS RES-LISS AND MY TRIGER FINGER STARTS TO ITCH.

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Postby gunman » Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:48 pm

actually I have heard that from afew diffrent groups, people seem to have done well on the rivers and further north....
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