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Re: synthetic raffia...

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:54 am

troy_iv wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:...still waitin... :rolleyes:


I'd give them a call, Swamp. My order came in two days or so...

Guess what just showed up...
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That picture was taken without a flash. it has a very dull shine comparable to that of either johnson grass or roseau cane stalks where you pull the leaves back. Don't let the picture fool you, it's a lot duller than what you see in the picture. Looks natural to me...I put it in the yard in the grass and it looks fine. :thumbsup:
here's a pic. with the flash to show the colors:
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I ordered (from left to right) Kraft, Oatmeal, Ivory, charcoal, and emerald green.
FWIW, this stuff is pretty damn tough too..you can break it with your hands by pulling on it, but you have to pull pretty hard to do so.

I'll post some picks when I make a few bundles later today...

I'll put a bundle next to real raffia for a comparison pic... :thumbsup:
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Re: synthetic raffia...

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:09 am

all the colors are what I expected, except the emerald green-it looks more like a kelly green.
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:43 am

I just walked outside with a half ass cut bundle and comparing it to the live oak leaves on the ground, that is the shine this stuff has.
This stuff is not like the old MOJO Ghillie crap-that stuff was made of polypropylene and shines like a neon sign! Though this wraphia is not what I would call a "drab" finish, it is flat. Same as some natural vegetation. I do not believe it will flare ducks.
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:47 am

Went home for lunch and snapped a pick of the synthetic on real raffia. this is Karft color synthetic wraphia on Kraft raffia...
can you pick out the real from the fake???
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Trying to figure out how I'm gonna attach it...
we will use a sand colored cloth-probably nylon, with a 2" netting on top to affix the wraphia to. Can't decide whether to lay it down and zip tie it, or stand it up...
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I need to order some dark chocolate color and a darker green though...
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby troy_iv » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:53 am

Indaswamp wrote:Trying to figure out how I'm gonna attach it...
we will use a sand colored cloth-probably nylon, with a 2" netting on top to affix the wraphia to. Can't decide whether to lay it down and zip tie it, or stand it up...


I gave the zip-tie method a shot, and it didn't want to hold on to the bundles. They kept slipping loose when I would grab them.

I'm going to try hanging it, and using hog-nose clips to fix it to the backing...
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby 18javelin » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:54 am

Just use RIT dye you said its compatible. Gonna have to order some I guess...
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:56 am

troy_iv wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:Trying to figure out how I'm gonna attach it...
we will use a sand colored cloth-probably nylon, with a 2" netting on top to affix the wraphia to. Can't decide whether to lay it down and zip tie it, or stand it up...


I gave the zip-tie method a shot, and it didn't want to hold on to the bundles. They kept slipping loose when I would grab them.

I'm going to try hanging it, and using hog-nose clips to fix it to the backing...

Laying it flat or standing it up-then zip tying? Might need to loop it through and pull the tag ends through the loop like how they make army ghillies...
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:57 am

18javelin wrote:Just use RIT dye you said its compatible. Gonna have to order some I guess...

RIT dye site says it can dye rayon, which this stuff is made of.
I only ordered a few rolls for R&D....They make a chocolate already, so I will just buy it. :thumbsup:
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby troy_iv » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:09 pm

Indaswamp wrote:
troy_iv wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:Trying to figure out how I'm gonna attach it...
we will use a sand colored cloth-probably nylon, with a 2" netting on top to affix the wraphia to. Can't decide whether to lay it down and zip tie it, or stand it up...


I gave the zip-tie method a shot, and it didn't want to hold on to the bundles. They kept slipping loose when I would grab them.

I'm going to try hanging it, and using hog-nose clips to fix it to the backing...

Laying it flat or standing it up-then zip tying? Might need to loop it through and pull the tag ends through the loop like how they make army ghillies...


Tried both ways. Didn't try looping it, though.
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:11 pm

bet looping will work, especially since you are making your strands so long....
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby 18javelin » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:11 pm

Can u get me a pic of a decent bundle in sun. I'm still pondering the glare. I have order made just haven't hit send yet. Lol
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:14 pm

18javelin wrote:Can u get me a pic of a decent bundle in sun. I'm still pondering the glare. I have order made just haven't hit send yet. Lol

give me a litle while, I'll get that for you...
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:19 pm

In the sun, with a shiny oak leaf.....
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:23 pm

It's got the same sheen that straw has.....
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby 18javelin » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:26 pm

Ok thanks. I've got 6 spools on oreder 3 kraft 1 black 2 hunter green. That should finsh off my blind with 3-4 different colors with what I already have.
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:28 pm

now I gotta get a hold of some maiden cane and roseau for color matching...need to order the netting and get busy cutting!
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:31 pm

gonna run about $175~$200 to cover a layout ghillie big enough for a layout pirouge (5' X 15')
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby 18javelin » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:03 pm

I have a lot of natural raffia already ready to go. Front and back needs a little more so hopefully 6 spools do it.

Swamp wouldn't buying jsterns be cheaper than 175 bucks?
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:10 pm

18javelin wrote:I have a lot of natural raffia already ready to go. Front and back needs a little more so hopefully 6 spools do it.

Swamp wouldn't buying jsterns be cheaper than 175 bucks?

Not sure how much real raffia to cover 15X5' costs. But price is not the determining factor, value is. I want something that will last more than one season. We do not hunt in fields down here. raffia will get wet every time we hunt. hanging it to dry is a PITA. It also gets heavy when it's wet. I'd rather go this route than have to buy new raffia every season like some friends do.
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby 18javelin » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:17 pm

My raffia has lasted 4 years so far. No salt but wet and dry a lot. I spray with camp dry it helps. If this rayon stays dry ill switch for sure. Curios to see what a spool will cover.
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:20 pm

18javelin wrote:My raffia has lasted 4 years so far. No salt but wet and dry a lot. I spray with camp dry it helps. If this rayon stays dry ill switch for sure. Curios to see what a spool will cover.

rayon will not soak up water. period.
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:35 pm

18javelin wrote:My raffia has lasted 4 years so far. No salt but wet and dry a lot. I spray with camp dry it helps. If this rayon stays dry ill switch for sure. Curios to see what a spool will cover.

coverage depends on how long you cut the strands, and how thick you make your bundles. I'm figuring 10 ft. per bundle (12" long, ten strands), then doubled over like in the pictures above. That will give you 30 bundles. I'm using 2" netting so 1 every 2"...almost 1 roll per sq. ft.

I will actually make some bundles shorter and some longer, but 12" is the avg. length for estimating....
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby m4a34u » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:38 pm

Looks promising, I'd really like to see some Roseau cane matched up.

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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby ScaupHunter » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:45 am

Thanks for the pictures. I am going to put in an order for a bunch of the Kraft and Oatmeal Colors with smaller rolls of Chocolate Brown and Olive Gree to break it up.

I would make it just like we made ghillies in the Army. Net sewn down to fabric. Wraphia material overhand knotted around the net lines. I am not sure that standing it up is worth the effort. I suspect that a few hunts, wetting the material down, mud, etc... will lay it down for you.
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Re: synthetic raffia...(order arrived)

Postby Indaswamp » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:49 am

ScaupHunter wrote:Thanks for the pictures. I am going to put in an order for a bunch of the Kraft and Oatmeal Colors with smaller rolls of Chocolate Brown and Olive Gree to break it up.

I would make it just like we made ghillies in the Army. Net sewn down to fabric. Wraphia material overhand knotted around the net lines. I am not sure that standing it up is worth the effort. I suspect that a few hunts, wetting the material down, mud, etc... will lay it down for you.

I'm thinking that with the rayon material, if you tie an over hand knot, the knot will work free. I'm not really worried about it staying standing up, just looking for the best way to attach it. the loop knot method might be best....
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