slowshooter wrote:Most people that get sick say it's the flu and don't realize that is usually just a mild case of food poisoning.
Every year about half a million people around the world die of the flu and last century there were 3 outbreaks that killed millions. The facts back up getting a flu shot. Anyone that doesn't take advantage of them for their children is rolling the dice and betting their kid's lives.
Personally I think it might be a great way to clean out the gene pool... And will provide a few great lessons to parents - provided they don't die first.
Lesson 1: It teaches thoughtless parents that some decisions have real life and death consequences---
It's no fun to watch your own child die when a cytokine storm hit his/her lungs and they drown in fluid manufactured by their own immune system.
Lesson 2: It teaches stubborn parents that they can't do a simple risk assessment---
More to the point, the flu has killed. There is no denying that fact... "But, hey, my child might get sick from the vaccination so why bother saving his life?"
Lesson 3: It teaches dumb parents a quick lesson in distinguishing certainty from probability---
As I pointed out, the flu has killed and there is a 100% certainty that it will kill again. "My kid got sick last time anyway so no need to get another shot - until they actually die. Then I'll make sure they get a shot the next flu season even though it will probably make him/her sick again..."
That is all.
Booney3721 wrote:Try being a dishwasher/Grill cook/ellectrition/garbage disposer and your owner/boss is a fat greek woman who cals you names as Retard, stupid, idiot, molocah, f*** face and tard, and tells you that you was the inspiration for abortion and birth control.
Have you got sick in the past. A number of people have said this. I've got the flu shot every year over a decade now and I've never gotten any ill effects from it. A number of people have said this, but neither I nor my wife has gotten sick from the shot. We don't have any kids and are rarely around any, so we are far less likely to have colds and all the other things that the little germ dispensers bring around. I wonder how much of it is just that you get it when the beginning of the cold season arrives and it's that and not the shot. Maybe I'm just lucky. It just struck me as weird since you were one of many to have said similar things.vincentpa wrote:This was the first year in a while that I haven't gotten the flu shot. They were offering it at work right before I went to Spain. I didn't want to get sick.
vincentpa wrote:I've gotten I'll every time. I've probably had flew shot for six or seven years. Like clockwork I get a mild cold with slight fever. The wife too. We usually get the shots at different times too. Too much coincidence.
dakotashooter2 wrote:My ex was also a teacher with exposure to 100s of kids a day. While she occassionally got the flu I never did. I have not had the flu in over 25 years though I do get a touch of food poisoning now and then. I believe doctors are so quick to fill us with meds that they hamper our immune systems. Really unless a child has other issues or illnesses that may be compounded by catching the flu I probably wouldn't so his immune system could develop naturally. The reason it is beneficial to the elderly is that exact reason...... they already have other health issues...................
I got a flu shot for the first time this year but I didn't get it for myself I got it to reduce my chances of being a carrier to my newborn grandchild.
BurnettGunner wrote:What are your chances of dying from the flu, even if you contract it? I have never known an otherwise healthy person who has died from the flu. Whenever I get the flu I feel like I'm going to die, but I'm too pickled to actually die.
CDC does not know exactly how many people die from seasonal flu each year. There are several reasons for this. First, states are not required to report individual seasonal flu cases or deaths of people older than 18 years of age to CDC. Second, seasonal influenza is infrequently listed on death certificates of people who die from flu-related complications. Third, many seasonal flu-related deaths occur one or two weeks after a person’s initial infection, either because the person may develop a secondary bacterial co-infection (such as bacterial pneumonia) or because seasonal influenza can aggravate an existing chronic illness (such as congestive heart failure or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease). Also, most people who die from seasonal flu-related complications are not tested for flu, or they seek medical care later in their illness when seasonal influenza can no longer be detected from respiratory samples. Sensitive influenza tests are only likely to detect influenza if performed within a week after onset of illness. In addition, some commonly used tests to diagnose influenza in clinical settings are not highly sensitive and can provide false negative results (i.e. they misdiagnose flu illness as not being flu.) For these reasons, many flu-related deaths may not be recorded on death certificates. These are some of the reasons that CDC and other public health agencies in the United States and other countries use statistical models to estimate the annual number of seasonal flu-related deaths. Flu deaths in children were made a nationally notifiable condition in 2004, and since then, states have reported flu-related child deaths in the United States through the Influenza Associated Pediatric Mortality Surveillance System.
The MMWR study also found that during seasons when influenza A (H3N2) viruses were prominent death rates were more than double what they were during seasons when influenza A (H1N1) or influenza B viruses predominated. In addition, the study confirmed previous findings that about 90% of influenza associated deaths occur among adults 65 years and older.
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